Obama Regime Threatens Pastors & Priests With Arrest During Shutdown

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Military priests are facing arrest if they celebrate mass or practice their faith on military bases during the federal government shutdown.

No point in adding any additional comments to what is self-evident in terms of Dictator Obama’s Tyranny and Petulance.

MILITARY PRIESTS FACE ARREST FOR CELEBRATING MASS IN DEFIANCE OF SHUTDOWN

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Our government is out of control.

First, it was the World War II veterans who had to break down barriers to see the open air, un-attended memorial erected in their honor.  A memorial which is on public land but is supported – including the National Park Service fee – with private funds. This week there was more security surrounding this memorial — just to keep elderly veterans out — than there was at our embassy in Benghazi the night it was attacked.

And for what? To inflict as much pain as possible through this government shutdown. It’s called Washington Monument Syndrome, and it’s pure political theater.

But now there’s a story just coming to light that takes things even further. According the Archdiocese for Military Services, GS and contract priests (who are paid by the federal government as independent contractors in places where there aren’t enough active-duty priests to meet the needs of Catholics in military service) are being forbidden from celebrating Mass, even on a volunteer basis.

If they violate this restriction, they face possible arrest. FOR CELEBRATING MASS. 

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Priests threatened with arrest if they minister to military during shutdown

In a stunning development, some military priests are facing arrest if they celebrate mass or practice their faith on military bases during the federal government shutdown.

“With the government shutdown, many [government service] and contract priests who minister to Catholics on military bases worldwide are not permitted to work – not even to volunteer,” wrote John Schlageter, the general counsel for the Archdiocese for the Military Services USA, in an op-ed this week. “During the shutdown, it is illegal for them to minister on base and they risk being arrested if they attempt to do so.”

According to its website, the Archdiocese for the Military Services “provides the Catholic Church’s full range of pastoral ministries and spiritual services to those in the United States Armed Forces.”

In his piece, Schlageter worries about this restriction as Sunday nears. “If the government shutdown continues through the weekend, there will be no Catholic priest to celebrate Mass this Sunday in the chapels at some U.S. military installations where non-active-duty priests serve as government contractors,” he wrote.

Because of the lack of active-duty Catholic chaplains, the military relies on hiring civilian priests to serve as government service and contract ministers. Those civilian priests are not allowed on the bases during a shutdown, Schlageter wrote.

One Republican lawmaker on the House Intelligence Committee told The Daily Caller on Friday that this “crosses a constitutional line.”

“The constitutional rights of those who put their lives on the line for this nation do not end with a government slowdown,” Kansas Rep. Mike Pompeo, a graduate of West Point and an Army veteran, said in a Friday statement. ”It is completely irresponsible for the president to turn his back on every American’s First Amendment rights by furloughing military contract clergy.”

Added Pompeo: “The President’s strategy during the slowdown, just as during the sequestration, is to create as much pain as possible. However, this action crosses a constitutional line of obstructing every U.S. service member’s ability to practice his or her religion.”

Shutdown Impacts Chapel Services

By John SchlageterIf the government shutdown continues through the weekend, there will be no Catholic priest to celebrate Mass this Sunday in the chapels at some U.S. military installations where non-active-duty priests serve as government contractors.

Military personnel enjoy, like all Americans, the First Amendment guarantee of the “Free Exercise” of their particular religious faith. But because military personnel are considered a “captive audience,” the laws of our country require the government to provide access to that faith. This is why we have a military chaplaincy. This all becomes very clear when one thinks of a military family stationed in Bahrain or Japan. They cannot walk down the street to the local synagogue, church, mosque, etc.

There is a chronic shortage of active duty Catholic chaplains. While roughly 25% of the military is Catholic, Catholic priests make up only about 8% of the chaplain corps. That means approximately 275,000 men and women in uniform, and their families, are served by only 234 active-duty priests. The temporary solution to this shortage is to provide GS and contract priests. These men are employed by the government to ensure that a priest is available when an active duty Catholic Chaplain is not present. With the government shutdown, many GS and contract priests who minister to Catholics on military bases worldwide are not permitted to work – not even to volunteer. During the shutdown, it is illegal for them to minister on base and they risk being arrested if they attempt to do so.

As an example, if a Catholic family has a Baptism scheduled this weekend at an Air Force base that is staffed by a GS or contract priest, unless they can locate a priest who is not a GS or contract priest, the Baptism is most likely cancelled. If you are a Catholic stationed in Japan or Korea and are served by a Contract or GS priest, unless you speak Korean or Japanese and can find a church nearby, then you have no choice but to go without Mass this weekend. Until the Federal Government resumes normal operations, or an exemption is granted to contract or GS priests, Catholic services are indefinitely suspended at many of those worldwide installations served by contract and GS priests.

At a time when the military is considering alternative sources of funding for sporting events at the service academies, no one seems to be looking for funding to ensure the Free Exercise rights of Catholics in uniform. Why not?

*John Schlageter is General Counsel for the Archdiocese for the Military Services, USA.

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67 responses to “Obama Regime Threatens Pastors & Priests With Arrest During Shutdown

  1. PrayingForBlogger

    Obama Regime? More like Republicans holding Obamacare hostage Regime likely. Such a sad blog.

  2. invar

    Obamacare is an Unconstitutonal tyranny crafted in secret, passed before anyone read the bill and is administering untold pain upon Americans. We have recourse with the Congress to defund such lawless dictates. We don’t intend to take Obamacare hostage – we intend to KILL IT before it kills the lot of us.

  3. SomeWillBelieveAnything

    “Untold pain” because it isn’t happening? And have you looked at health statistics in the United States lately, we are doing a great job of killing ourselves already.

  4. deb

    Hate to tell you The Affordable Health Care act is already saving lives, by doing away with the pre existing condition clause for one. Keep drinking the Koch Kool-Aid. Hope you enjoy it.

  5. invar

    You Obama Stormtrooping MarxoFascists are a hoot. How much do they pay you an hour to troll Conservative blogs with your propaganda? SHOW ME ONE PERSON who has had their life saved by ObamaCare. Just ONE. You can’t because YOU ARE A LIAR deb. ObamaCare has not even been implemented yet – but you are going to attempt to LIE to my readers with propaganda garbage from your messiah. The Kool-aid drinking Seig healing goose-stepping morons are people like you two tyrannical palm-licking buffoons.

  6. Anonymous

    How can any of you believe this? It is totally false.

  7. invar

    Not only is it TRUE and verified by several mainstream media sources, but John Schlageter, the General Counsel for the Archdiocese VERIFIED the the threats were made and ordered.

    You simply refuse to accept the fact that your Obama messiah would stoop to such tyranny.

    You people wanted war – you got one – and given your current direction – it’s going to go hot.

    You will rue the day you Marxofascists made that last mistake.

  8. Anonymous

    Whether it’s based on religion or not, rules are rules, government shutdown means NO ONE can work. Don’t like the gov’t rules, DON’T WORK FOR THE GOV’T. They aren’t allowed mass ON base, that isn’t stopping anyone from leaving base to enjoy mass. There are plenty of churches OFF BASE that will accept those who wish to worship come sunday…. If you want to cry about the gov’t shutdown, blame the representatives who shut it down and are crying about the Affordable Care Act instead of sucking it up and compromising LIKE ADULTS

  9. invar

    That’s a nice load of MarxoFascist CRAP. We have no intention of compromising with our liberty any longer. In the past 18 government shutdowns NONE of what Obama is doing occurred. Masses were said on base. Open memorials were open. This whole ordeal is political theater so your messiah can use it to bludgeon his political opposition to capitulate to his tyranny.

    He’s been 5 years without a budget, using this continuing resolution garbage to keep spending OUR MONEY when we are BROKE. None of us can demand that our credit limits get raised when we are maxed out on our credit – but your messiah and his stooges think they can do so with OUR MONEY.

    No more. It’s done. It’s over.

    ObamaCare is TYRANNY and UNLAWFUL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL. It needs to be destroyed, Ignored Defunded and obliterated into irrelevance.

    We plan to continue to push for it – even if we have to shut the whole damn thing down FOR GOOD. We’re going to stop this juggernaut of Socialism even if it comes to blood.

    You MarxoFascist stooges wanted a war – you got it.

  10. invar

    To you MarxoFascist stooges that think you can troll this blog and post your propaganda here from your Obama-worshipping web sites – think again. Your crap will be deleted on site and then ridiculed for the evil tripe that it is.

    We’re done talking, it’s time to simply fight and call your crap out for what it is and grind it into the dirt. You don’t get to spew your garbage here. You already have the mainstream media doing that for you.

  11. Andre

    “To you MarxoFascist stooges that think you can troll this blog and post your propaganda here from your Obama-worshipping web sites – think again. Your crap will be deleted on site and then ridiculed for the evil tripe that it is.

    We’re done talking, it’s time to simply fight and call your crap out for what it is and grind it into the dirt. You don’t get to spew your garbage here. You already have the mainstream media doing that for you.”

    Ha ha! So, no discussion? No compromise? No trying to understand other points of view?

    This is exactly why I am not a conservative. At least you are open about what you really believe.

  12. Andre

    Let me reword part of that, actually.

    I know a lot of smart, kind, fair minded conservatives.

    So, what I should actually have said is, “The attitude you have here is exactly the attitude that many of our conservative leaders seem to have and is why I don’t really trust them.”

  13. Tena

    Someone said show them one life that had been saved by Obamacare so here it is.

  14. invar

    Ha ha! So, no discussion? No compromise?

    Absolutely NOT. We’ve compromised with liberalism/Marxism to the point we’ve nearly lost our liberty. You people declared war on our liberty, our faith and our Republic. We’re done talking. Our sole focus is to end your ideology from having any impact upon us any further.

    No trying to understand other points of view?

    We already understand what Marxism and Fascism are. They’re anathema to liberty and our foundational principles.

    We’re here to DEFEAT your point of view and show it for the excrement that it is.

    This is exactly why I am not a conservative.

    Yeah. You were so open minded you let your brain fall out. Your ideology is exactly why I’m a Conservative. You are the antithesis of liberty, you stand for tyranny and central government dictatorship.

    At least you are open about what you really believe.

    Unlike most Leftists who have to hide behind the notions of compassion and other ‘moral’ sounding vices to enslave a free people to despotism.

  15. invar

    I can write signs and take iPhone shots that Obama personally gave me a back massage and post that to Facebook too. How can you MarxoFascist hacks think you can deceive those of us who can actually think instead of emote? The only thing that has taken effect on October 1, is for the Exchanges to open to begin to sign people up for ObamaCare. Not a single operational aspect of ObamaCare has been implemented in terms of actually providing or paying for any health insurance. Not a SINGLE claim has been processed via ObamaCare. Not a SINGLE person in the country even has an operational form of Obamacare insurance. The only thing that exists right now besides a massive bureaucracy and a failed web site is a sign up sheet for exchanges that most health insurance companies have already bailed from.

    So, it is IMPOSSIBLE for a single person’s life to have been saved by Obamacare. But I know of a bunch of businesses that are closing because of Obamacare.

    So the insidious bull shiest you MarxoFascists and Obama drones want us to swallow is just pure lies and bovine excrement.

  16. E

    The Affordable Health Care and Obama Care are the same train wreck which is NOT implemented.
    So could not save a turkey on Thanksgiving day.
    Obama on national net works said ” I will Not Negotiate the health care act” how ever he did negotiate with terrorists and gives asylum to illegals. Obama care was crafted in secret, and passed before anyone read the bill that is true, more marxist tyranny.
    Government Shut Down, does that mean cutting the Billions of $$ in foreign aid OFF to country’s sworn to destroy us, but not allow its use in our homeland ?
    Next the Obama followers will be perching the Revolutionary War, WWI, WWII, Korean Conflict, were meths and Sept 11 never happened !!
    Just who does these so called Government people work for? Who Pays there wage? Who is spending OUR TAX dollars supporting country’s who supplement terrorist against us? Yet shutting down Our National Parks, Memorials, and federal ground we the PEOPLE OWN !! Telling us we no longer can worship our believes because of a Gov. shut down. Did Not this country settle this over two thundered years ago with The Constitution and Bill of Rights
    Wake UP you brain washed Progressive Liberal Marxist misfits !!
    Keep it up Invar : )

  17. N. SImpson

    Is “MarxoFascist” the word of the day? Whatever happened to compromise? Why get defensive? The truth is that WE ALL elected the people that are sitting in Washington and our respective state capitals to protect and serve the collective best interests of us all, yet what is really being accomplished? Whether you are republican, democrat, independent or anything else, the simple fact is that the people that we asked to represent us are also representing their own interests, and we also suffer. Read some of the things that they are doing. Why are we fighting amongst ourselves? Why aren’t we holding our elected officials responsible for the job they are supposed to be doing but not? Name calling, and belittling is not accomplishing anything. If you want to have a huge fight over religion, please do tell us all, where exactly in the bible it says that you should do more than love your fellow man?

  18. invar

    Is “MarxoFascist” the word of the day?

    “MarxoFascist” is the word that best describes “progressives/Liberals/Obama supporters” in this country. Obama’s ideology is Marxist. His worshippers hate business and love when government takes business over or when business is regulated and run by the state, which is Fascism. Obama took over the student loan industry, GM, credit card banking and now the health insurance industry on the path to taking over and running the health care industry itself.

    Whatever happened to compromise?

    We’re DONE compromising. We never should have compromised with tyranny in the first place. But that’s what you people stand for: government tyranny.

    Why get defensive?

    Liberty is worth fighting for. And it’s high time the gloves come off and we put you people on notice.

    The truth is that WE ALL elected the people that are sitting in Washington and our respective state capitals to protect and serve the collective best interests of us all

    “Collective interests”???? Screw your Socialism pal. The truth is the Ruling Class in D.C. is not beholden to ‘We the People’. Rather they are beholden to their own power and our money and they promise the Welfare Dependents more goodies from wealthier Americans for their votes.

    yet what is really being accomplished?

    Despotic MarxoFascist tyranny is being accomplished.

    Why are we fighting amongst ourselves?

    Those who support this regime and their policies and agenda, support tyranny. They are enemies of liberty. They enable Obama and his MarxoFascist ilk to do what they are doing.

    Why aren’t we holding our elected officials responsible for the job they are supposed to be doing but not?

    The TEA Party and Conservatives ARE holding them responsible which is why the Ruling Class and Obama are going berserk and having their tantrums. And we’re just getting started. The Cabal in D.C. is going to be REMOVED from office and power, one way or another.

    Name calling, and belittling is not accomplishing anything.

    Sure it is. It’s drawing the line, it’s prepping to fight, it’s telling the MarxoFascists – not one step further. It’s putting the bully in his place. I’m calling the Leftists what they are. That said, the Democrats and Obama have made demonizing Conservatives an art form. Name calling and ridicule are part of their Saul Alinsky bible. Let’s see, this past week Conservatives were called ‘anarchists’; ‘terrorists’; ‘extremists’; ‘dangerous’; ‘rebels’; ‘criminals’; “arsonists’; “killers of the homeless and hungry”; by the Obama-worshipping media hordes and our Democrat ‘representatives’ in Congress.

    If you want to have a huge fight over religion,

    You people started it. What we’re fighting for is our liberty, of which religion is the foundation. You people have used government and the courts to strip it away.

    No more.

    please do tell us all, where exactly in the bible it says that you should do more than love your fellow man?

    Ever hear of ‘tough love’? That requires punishment in order to correct wicked, bad and evil behavior. Scripture has plenty of accounts of God telling a nation of His people to eschew evil, refuse to follow the way of the wicked and to go in and SLAUGHTER those nations that came against them or whom sought to get their nation to abandon God.

    You Leftists continue to preach the deceit that insists Christians ‘love your fellow man’ which means surrendering our principles to evil and ideas anathema to our Foundations. We love the Lord and our liberties first and foremost. The time has come for Christians and Conservatives to fight back, even if it comes to blood to preserve what is left of our liberties and our faith from the oppressive claws of the MarxoFascists who use government like a club.

    Meet the sword. We’re no longer going to stand here and let you people use the government to club us into submission.

  19. N. Simpson

    You make your comments directly toward me, but fail to realize that majority vote put the government in place. You cry like a little baby because you aren’t getting it your way. You allude to threats of anarchy because you don’t get it your way. NEWS FLASH, you aren’t the only one living in this country. POPULAR VOTE. That means that those idiots running this country were put there by us. And just because your party lost, you throw a tantrum like a spoiled little kid. Profess religion without bigotry. You have no concept of judge not lest ye shall be judged. Your views on religious history and separation of church and state need to be fact checked. Religion doesn’t run this county. Hence the afore mentioned the separation between church and state. With your mentality we might as well be living in the dark ages, where blacks and women have no rights. Not everyone has your belief structure, yet you wish to force it on the rest of us. You are a very sad and misguided person. I actually feel sorry for you. PLEASE reread your bible. Pray.

  20. invar

    You make your comments directly toward me

    It’s called a REPLY, based on what you wrote.

    but fail to realize that majority vote put the government in place.

    Funny how that fact doesn’t seem to apply to Leftists screaming bloody murder after the Democrats were trounced in 2010. A majority put Conservative Republicans into power in the House. Somehow you Leftists have a problem with that. Having said that – millions seig-heiled Adolf Hitler’s rise to power too. Just because a majority supports a tyrant doesn’t mean the rest of of us who cherish liberty and righteousness have to surrender to what the mob wants.

    You cry like a little baby because you aren’t getting it your way.

    I’m not the one throwing a hissy fit and temper tantrum by shutting down open air memorials, declaring the ocean closed and threatening to arrest priests for saying Mass on U.S. military bases. Your messiah Obama and his MarxoFascists are doing that. Plus Conservatives are not crying – we’re pissed off and have had enough. This tyranny ENDS NOW. We’ve just begun to fight. You Leftists can goose-step to Obama and his Leftist hordes and claim moral superiority all you like. We’re defying you and your tyrants. You’ve treaded on us long enough.

    NEWS FLASH, you aren’t the only one living in this country. POPULAR VOTE.

    Listen ignoramus – we’re not a democracy, we’re a Republic. What you are advocating with your ‘POPULAR VOTE’ rant is four wolves and a sheep deciding what is for dinner. Well, Liberty is off the menu and we’re going to fight to prevent you wolves from encroaching any further on our liberties, our inalienable rights.

    That means that those idiots running this country were put there by us.

    They were’t put there by me. They were put there by people like you who support their tyranny. And, Our Founders protected our God-given right to THROW OFF such idiots running the country – by force of arms if needs be (you might have heard of it – it’s called the Second Amendment).

    And just because your party lost, you throw a tantrum like a spoiled little kid.

    Last I looked the majority of the states are Conservative (red). Last I looked the House of Representatives has a Republican majority. As I said, you might demand we all goose=step to a dictator who has usurped the Constitution and declared it legal for himself to do so with the aid of his party – but we refuse to sit idle and allow that to continue REGARDLESS if you supporters of tyranny claim you have a majority that want it and it’s legal.

    King George III imposed legal tyranny also. Our forbears kicked his arse and killed his troops attempting to subjugate us to his tyrannical rule.

    Profess religion without bigotry.

    You have no authority here. Isaiah 58:1 is being applied in full on this blog. That you cretins scream bigotry, racism and every other derogatory at those who are shining a light on your wickedness, tyranny and evil, simply showcases what you are – and you people don’t like that.

    You have no concept of judge not lest ye shall be judged.

    You have no concept you are advocating an unbiblical Satanic perversion of that scripture and Christ’s intent in that admonition. What you people have done is to pervert the scripture to force the culture to accept sin and wickedness because you have granted yourself authority to define what is and is not Christian and what can and cannot be judged. We judge sin, wickedness, evil and tyranny here – and call them and those that push those agendas what they are without apology or compromise. But that is what you people demand; that Conservatives compromise with your evil and tyranny.

    Not gonna happen. Not here. Not from a majority of Conservative Christians. We stand against you and your agendas.

    Your views on religious history and separation of church and state need to be fact checked.

    Horsepucky pal. The history of God’s role in our nation’s founding is documented, and fact-checked by the writings and diary entries of the Founders themselves. There is NO separation of church and state in the Constitution. It doesn’t exist. But you people have insisted it is so and perverted the courts to take a private letter in 1801 out of context to insert it’s perversion on the First Amendment.

    What needs to be checked, is you people and your agenda. And it will be.

    Religion doesn’t run this county.

    That explains why you people are governed by evil and sin and why you demand to REMOVE God from our culture. You people HATE God and His Ways as a foundation of the culture Which is why you work tirelessly to remove any vestige of God from public view or mention without ridicule and scorn.

    Hence the afore mentioned the separation between church and state.

    There is no such thing. If you think you can separate us from our God and our rights – then it’s going to come down to bloodshed. You people want to make that last mistake?

    History teaches that your ideology will make that last mistake.

    With your mentality we might as well be living in the dark ages, where blacks and women have no rights.

    Yada, yada, yada liberal gobeledygook nonsensical insults pal. Let’s put it this way – in the recent past, even when we DID compromise with you Leftists – you continued to hurl such ridiculous accusations in the “So-when-did-you-stop-beating-your-wife” fashion to impose your agenda via fear mongering.

    I don’t play your game. Since you are going to accuse us of every vile threat in the book, I say we live up to your expectations of ‘extremist’; ‘terrorist’; ‘racist’ and so on. You are going to continue to to insist that we are anyway – so I say we should show you what those words and accusations really mean.

    Not everyone has your belief structure, yet you wish to force it on the rest of us.

    You are projecting again. The difference is that you empower Marxists in government and the courts to force your belief structure on the rest of us.

    We plan to defy you and resist. By any and all means possible.

    You are a very sad and misguided person. I actually feel sorry for you.

    I take that as a compliment coming from the likes of you. And don’t feel sorry for me. Feel sorry for yourself. Your agenda and ideology made us enemies, your agenda wants a war.

    Well, your agenda and ideology is about to make that last mistake and you will rue the day you did.

  21. N. Simpson

    You don’t know my agenda. You profile me, yet you have no idea who or what I am. You have a preconceived notion that everyone should bow to you and your belief structure, or now you are threatening bloodshed? Oh wow. That is so horribly sad. The land of the free, and you think that you need to hurt people in order for your point of view adhered to? Do you honestly think that hurting people actually made them receptive to your point of view? You claim that the current president is a Marxist and dictator, but what you are suggesting is nothing more than creating your own dictatorship. You want to take away others free agency to have voted for their government, because you don’t like it. You obviously have much deeper issues. Your ideology is flawed. If you know religious history, and its influence on culture, as its past, its very troubling. Not everyone believes in your version of god, does that make them wrong? If your previous statements are any indication, you would have us al living in a dictatorship. I don’t agree with what our government has done, but I also know that we have elections, and your right wing ultra conservatism has as much opportunity to cast their vote or even attempt to run for an office to instigate change. Having followed politics closely and majored in political sciences with advanced degrees, I can assure you that there has yet to be an official elected ever that has been popular with everyone. But majority rules. Bush got elected, and Mcain was not. And seriously, Mitt Romney didn’t really have a chance. So, if popular vote AND majority put Obama in office TWICE, what does that say? That the voice of the people got heard, right? Oh, that’s right, you think that the minority that didn’t get what they wanted should start anarchy, and hurt people? Because “GOD” advocates violence when you don’t get what you want? Or “GOD” advocates you to oppress others free agency (that he gave us all to chose what we want)? “GOD” advocates that hurting people is the way to make the world a better place? Hurting people will bring others closer to “GOD”? That’s horrible!! I would never subscribe to any interpretation of the bible that would subscribe to that blind eye point of view.

  22. joe just joe

    invar? NOBODY has been threatened with arrest for leading Mass. NOBODY.

  23. invar

    You don’t know my agenda. You profile me

    Absolutely. Your words and comments betray you and your agenda.

    yet you have no idea who or what I am.

    You are an enemy of liberty – that is all I need to know, so I can care less anything else about you.

    You have a preconceived notion that everyone should bow to you and your belief structure,

    I’m not the one empowering government to infringe on your liberties by the point of a gun, rob your wealth to redistribute to their constituents and cronies, and destroy your property and business via arduous and harassing regulations. That is what YOUR AGENDA does.

    or now you are threatening bloodshed?

    No threatening. Telling you there is a line you enemies of liberty and your storm trooping MarxoFascist hordes are going to cross.

    Oh wow. That is so horribly sad.

    Deal with it. Or not. Just giving your agenda and ideologues fair warning. We’ve had enough.

    The land of the free,

    No, we’re not free – we’re being subjugated to tyranny.

    you think that you need to hurt people in order for your point of view adhered to?

    That’s how you stop bullies, madmen and genocidal maniacs and their wild-eyed followers.

    Do you honestly think that hurting people actually made them receptive to your point of view?

    We enshrined our liberty from the Crown of England by KILLING the agents of the king who sought to subjugate the Colonists. That’s our birthright. Tread on it if you dare.

    You claim that the current president is a Marxist and dictator

    Exactly. Because he is. His actions and demagoguery reveal him to be what he is.

    what you are suggesting is nothing more than creating your own dictatorship.

    That’s rich. I’m not running for office or leadership of anything. We’re simply telling you that your imposition of tyranny ENDS NOW. We will not comply. We will not submit. And when you force us to – then the gloves are off and you will rue the day you and your agenda brought us to that point. Go ahead, poke the rattlesnake if you dare. Be stupid.

    You want to take away others free agency to have voted for their government, because you don’t like it.

    Like I done told you before, millions seig-heiled Hitler, pledged themselves to Mao and supported Stalin and other Marxists/Fasicsts in the past. That does not mean those of us who cherish liberty must join you imbeciles in the worship of your false messiahs and utopias. It doesn’t matter to me if 90% of the idiots of this country decide to goose-step to a new Fuhrer and Dear Leader. My liberties are off limits and you have no authority or jurisdiction to infringe on them. Do so at your own peril.

    Your ideology is flawed.

    Your opinion is irrelevant but what it does is showcase that you are indeed an enemy of liberty I asserted you were.

    If your previous statements are any indication, you would have us al living in a dictatorship.

    You’re projecting again. But that’s what you goose-stepping Leftists are known for.

    I don’t agree with what our government has done, but I also know that we have elections, and your right wing ultra conservatism has as much opportunity to cast their vote or even attempt to run for an office to instigate change.

    Proof of how clueless and ignorant you are as to the times of corruption, cronyism and usurpation we now exist in. We’re not naive to the levels of corruption, vote stuffing and outright fraud the Democrats engage in every election cycle.

    Having followed politics closely and majored in political sciences with advanced degrees,

    Ask me if I’m somehow impressed with you credentials. Go ahead… ask. You elitist intellectuals are all alike. Arrogant. Condescending. Lecturing.

    We’re done listening to the likes of you.

    But majority rules.

    All the letters after your name on the parchment obviously mean nothing in the comprehension and wisdom department. As I said to you before – we are not a mobocracy – we are not four wolves and a sheep deciding what’s for dinner. But if majority rules – then obviously the Dredd Scott decision, Prohibition and a litany of other ‘majority-led’ injustices were correct and moral according to your imbecillic logic.

    So, if popular vote AND majority put Obama in office TWICE, what does that say?

    That the majority that voted for a king and messiah worship government as their god and enjoy being wards and dependents of the state while empowering government to steal wealth and property from those whom have, in order to have it redistributed to themselves. In short, it says that they support tyranny.

    Oh, that’s right, you think that the minority that didn’t get what they wanted should start anarchy, and hurt people?

    Funny how you loons always forget your own history in order to push your agenda and support your tyrants. I recall plenty of times that the Democrat Left in the minority engaged in tactics and efforts very similar to what Conservatives are doing now in order to get their way and force themselves on the majority. Let’s see, there’s the Secular/Anti-God/Anti-Religion movement minority that have been engaged in getting the courts to remove the right of the free exercise of Christian religion and expression in the country. There’s the minority of homosexual militants who are shoving their sexual perversion on the majority using the courts and the government…. shall I go on? As far an anarchy – let’s just say we want a divorce from you Leftists and we’re warning you to back off of us, or you are going to wish you did.

    Because “GOD” advocates violence when you don’t get what you want?

    I’m sure King George III had many of same sentiments you are expressing at the “rabble” and “Traitors” he and Parliament called the Colonists too. Violence seemed the correct recipe to cut off the hands of the tyrants who sought to lay hands on the liberties of God-fearing men and people. In short since you have all those letters after your name on some parchment and as such, your wisdom quotient and comprehension are lacking – going to war against those who sought to impose tyranny on a free people was blessed and rewarded by the Almighty.

    Or “GOD” advocates you to oppress others free agency (that he gave us all to chose what we want)?

    There you go again… projecting. What part of “Back off and leave us alone” do you tyrants not understand? We don’t want your Socialism and MarxoFascism. You keep it to yourselves. But if you want to impose it upon a liberty-minded people, we are going to resist and you will suffer the consequences.

    GOD” advocates that hurting people is the way to make the world a better place?

    Well let’s see, we killed the Redcoats to stop them from imposing the tyranny of the Crown and we stopped the Holocaust by hurting the march of evil and wicked men from subjugating Europe into Fascism, so just those two examples illustrate that fact that making the world a better place will entail going to war upon wicked and evil people seeking to impose their form of tyranny on the world.

    Oh, and if you think Jesus would never advocate such a thing – you might want to read Zechariah 14 and Revelation 19. That part of Him sitting on the White Horse with an army who will smite the nations is in reference to God Himself warring upon a rebellious mankind who comes to make war against the Lamb. Peace is found on the other side of war, and Jesus Himself will have to go to war on the wicked in order to bring Peace to this earth.

    But then again, that’s not the Jesus or the God whom you would want to worship now is it?

    Hurting people will bring others closer to “GOD”? That’s horrible!! I would never subscribe to any interpretation of the bible that would subscribe to that blind eye point of view.

    Of course not. You have your own created image of who and what God is.

  24. invar

    John Schlageter General Counsel of the Archdiocese for the Military Services, USA. wrote and asserted such.

    http://www.milarch.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=dwJXKgOUJiIaG&b=8486699&ct=13344123

    Considering that obama has attempted to blockade open air memorials and ordered the Park Service to close access to the ocean in Florida, such petulance as already exhibited is expected from His Heinous.

  25. joe just joe

    It appears that John Schlageter General Counsel of the Archdiocese for the Military Service has been duped as well.

    NOBODY has been threatened for leading Mass. NOBODY. The Antideficiency Act of 1870 PROHIBITS workers from working or volunteering when there is a government shutdown. And Obama has NOT issued any orders to arrest anyone.

    Too bad the Republicans want to run America into a ditch with this crazy stunt of shutting down the government.

  26. Cameron

    Keep up the good work brother!!!!!! And do not worry or allow the Obama clone hirelings to deter what you are doing! They have already received their reward to reign with their King but ours is yet to come.

  27. Cameron

    The federal government needs to shut down so we can take this country back from these crony capitalist that are embezzling our tax money into offshore accounts to create an economic collapse in order to impose Marshall law to bring about an age of true tyrannical rule. I’m a Veteran, served overseas and receive monthly disability payments. They want to cut my benefits and I say do it as long as the whole federal government ends and we get rid of these evil technocrats that are wanting control over our every action and thought.

  28. Cameron

    Give my liberty back or give me death!!!!

  29. Cameron

    Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty or Safety.
    -Benjamin Franklin

  30. Cameron

    When the long arm of the fed government reaches into your bank account every month to take their money for “healthcare” maybe then you will realize what you have bought into. And it will be higher than what you have been paying in the past for a less than par medical service. We are talking about the same fed gov that could barely run a “cash for clunkers” program and now they will be running a healthcare system?!?! GTHO!!!!

  31. Cameron

    And again I am a Veteran and receive my medical treatment from the VA hospitals which is the same treatment you are about to get or worse if it can actually get any worse. Have fun waiting months and months for appointments and having doctors not even listen to you. There is a reason why it’s free Veterans but you will are going to be paying rather handsomely for it. And you can take that to the bank you bunch of thumb sucking bleeding heart idiots!

  32. invar

    Too bad the Republicans want to run America into a ditch with this crazy stunt of shutting down the government.

    Hey Joe – WE’RE BROKE – get it??? Obama has had NO BUDGET during the LAST 5 YEARS. He keeps demanding they pass this ‘Continuing Resolution’ meaning that they can spend money as they see fit WITHOUT the Constitutionally-required budget passage. Can you do that with YOUR credit cards?

    I didn’t think so. Stop drinking the MSM Marxist kool-aid and falling for the Obama demagoguery.

  33. joe just joe

    The budget isn’t in question, invar. The republican budget was approved by republicans and democrats in the House, and the Senate passed the budget after stripping the republican defund ACA out of it.

    BTW – has John Schlageter General Counsel of the Archdiocese for the Military Service or ANYBODY been able to produce written orders from Obama threatening arrest for non-military personnel (contract priests) with arrest?

    Didn’t think so. This alleged arrest threat is nothing but anti-Obama propaganda.

  34. invar

    The budget isn’t in question, invar. The republican budget was approved by republicans and democrats in the House, and the Senate passed the budget after stripping the republican defund ACA out of it.

    Hey Joe – you’re CLUELESS AGAIN.

    There IS NO BUDGET BILL and THERE HAS BEEN NO BUDGET PASSED IN THE LAST 5 YEARS.

    What has been passed is a CONTINUING RESOLUTION to keep funding the government WITHOUT A BUDGET.

    And, Constitutionally – the House has the power of the purse – and it is within it’s Constitutionally mandated role to determine what is funded and what is NOT funded. The House decided NOT to fund ObamaCare because it is an illegal law, written in secret and passed in the middle of the night that The People do not want. Congress has the Constitutional power to defund it.

    What Obama demands is an open credit limit with OUR MONEY. Well, he’s been told NO and he’s throwing a hissy fit.

    BTW – has John Schlageter General Counsel of the Archdiocese for the Military Service or ANYBODY been able to produce written orders from Obama threatening arrest for non-military personnel (contract priests) with arrest?

    I’ll answer your question if you can produce a single written order from Adolf Hitler authorizing the Final Solution or the elimination of a single Jew, or a single written order from Josef Stalin ordering the Holdomor.

    There’s a commonality at play going on here which is why I’m asking you that question. We’ll wait and see if you are intelligent enough to figure it out.

  35. joe just joe

    >> There IS NO BUDGET BILL and THERE HAS BEEN NO BUDGET PASSED IN THE LAST 5 YEARS.

    THERE IS A BUDGET BILL, PASSED BY THE HOUSE. H.CON.RES.25.

    BTW the ACA is not an illegal nor unconstitutional law. Don’t be silly.

    >> I’ll answer your question if you can produce a single written order from Adolf Hitler authorizing the Final Solution or the elimination of a single Jew, or a single written order from Josef Stalin ordering the Holdomor. There’s a commonality at play going on here which is why I’m asking you that question. We’ll wait and see if you are intelligent enough to figure it out.

    So you agree that this alleged threat of arrest is nothing but anti-Obama propaganda. Thanks for playing.

  36. invar

    THERE IS A BUDGET BILL, PASSED BY THE HOUSE. H.CON.RES.25.

    Look genius, that was a PROPOSAL – NOT A BUDGET. It’s in LIMBO – and will not be reconciled with either the Senate version (S.Con.Res 8) or obtain Obama’s signature, same as the previous 5 years. The only difference with S.Con.Res 8 is that it was the first budget proposal passed in the Senate in the last 4 years.

    So what they crafted was YET ANOTHER Continuing Appropriations Resolution to keep the government funded and running. Let’s call it the “kicking the can down the road” resolution. There’s no budget, there is not going to be a budget agreement because Obama and his party demand to spend TRILLIONS – which we do not have – and the Conservatives are making an attempt to keep their spending from increasing, which is why Obama created the Sequester in the first place – as a political bludgeon to the Budget Control Act of 2011 that limited Obama’s spending binge.

    BTW the ACA is not an illegal nor unconstitutional law. Don’t be silly.

    Obamacare is definitely illegal, unConstitutional, and blatant government tyranny. It was crafted in secret. It was voted on in the middle of the night with not A SINGLE REPRESENTATIVE EVEN READING THE BILL. You are welcome to be subjugated by it – but the rest of us refuse to comply with such Marxist tyranny. The government has no authority to mandate what I spend my money on in order to live and breathe or else have my wealth and property confiscated by the IRS. It was written and sold in the Senate as a mechanism for fines and punishment for non-compliance – not a tax. Obama’s regime even argued in front of SCOTUS it was not a tax. Then they said it WAS a tax. Then someone brought up the fact that all taxing must originate in the House which ObamaCare did not originate. Then Justice Roberts ruled on his own authority that he deemed it a tax.

    It’s convoluted, criminal and a conspiracy to collapse the existing health insurance market and force everyone into Single Payer Government-run healthcare. That is what Obama himself said was his intention back in 2007.

    So you agree that this alleged threat of arrest is nothing but anti-Obama propaganda.

    When did you stop beating your spouse and kids? Fingerprints are never present from a despot to those carrying out insidious wishes. They call it ‘plausible deniability’.

  37. Guy

    There is no more American Dream – It is a Living Nightmare – All those Whites than are supporting Obongo, Slap your face and ask yourselves what you have done because you have just given America Away – You FOOLS

  38. N. Simpson

    You know, if ignorance truly is bliss, you are by far one of the happiest people alive….

  39. invar

    If only I was ignorant of what you Obama-worshipping goose-stepping MarxoFascists are doing, then I might be happy. Since I’m not ignorant of what you people are doing to destroy the Republic and our liberties – I’m good and resolute in the effort to put a stop to your agenda.

  40. N. Simpson

    So lets throw a temper tantrum because we don’t get what we want. Because crying and pouting is making it better. You are blinded by half truths and misconceptions. Your pushing your agenda on everyone else. I suppose that when Bush was president, and he admitted to lying to the American public so many times that you still supported is special interest pandering policy? I supposed that you will complain and threaten no matter whom is in office as long as your personal agenda and will isn’t being met? Do you need a tissue?

  41. The Bible predicts this happening. I am not surprised by any of the things that are going on. Make yourself ready, Get your house in order, He is coming soon!!! When we least expect it, Like a thief in the night. The apostle’s creed would be a great thought right now.
    The Apostle’s Creed
    I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth; and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord: Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary; suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died and was buried. He descended into hell; the third day He rose again from the dead; He ascended into heaven, is seated at the right hand of God the Father Almighty; from thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of Saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting. Amen.
    ~~~~~~
    The Apostle’s Creed

  42. invar

    So lets throw a temper tantrum because we don’t get what we want.

    We’re going to throw far worse than a tantrum. We intend to resist you tyrants by every means available. We don’t want your tyranny and if you think you can use the government to impose it – you have another thing coming. You tyrants think you can impose Marxism on us without a fight? Think again.

    You want a war? You will have one. Keep on poking the rattlesnake and you’ll see.

    Because crying and pouting is making it better.

    You Leftists wrote the book on that. We’re simply borrowing a page from your Saul Alinsky tactics to use against you.

    You are blinded by half truths and misconceptions.

    You’re blinded by a demonic ideology and a false messiah.

    Your pushing your agenda on everyone else.

    I’m not forcing the government to steal your money to pay for abortions and to redistribute your wealth to people who are made dependents of the state. I’m not the one supporting the government steal the money of those who produce in order to pay for insurance for those already on the government dole – YOU people are doing that.

    What you are upset about is the PUSH BACK against your regime’s tyranny. And we’re just getting started.

    I suppose that when Bush was president,

    Bush was a lousy president. He grew the government larger than anyone that came before him – until Obama nearly TRIPLED what Bush spent in his first term alone.

  43. N. Simpson

    I suppose the only time your happy is when your complaining and not doing anything to facilitate change?

  44. invar

    We don’t want your ‘change’. We are planning and preparing to resist it. We intend to war upon it. We intend to show the country that the scourge of MarxoFascism as being implemented by the Democrat party and the Ruling Class in D.C. is the spawn of Satan himself and anathema to Christ and our foundational liberties. I’ll be happy when your ideology is made irrelevant and relegated to the ash heap of history.

    I’m happy when combating your ideology and your tyranny. I’m happy to fight evil when it threatens. I’m happy to put bullies in their place.

  45. N. Simpson

    And by freedom, you define that as how? Should gays have rights?

  46. invar

    We know what you MarxoFascists and Leftists define as ‘freedom’. You think freedom means you get to do whatever you feel like doing without any responsibility. You think freedom means you can have sex with whomever and whatever you desire and have other people pay to kill the consequence in the womb or to force them to find a cure when your genitals become diseased. You think freedom means you are entitled to other people’s money. You think freedom means you get to say what people can do with their private property and their money if they have more than you. You think freedom means you have a right to use the government as a weapon to punish those whom you hate. You think freedom means you have a right to go through life without being “offended”. You think freedom means you can force Christian free exercise out of sight and mind in the public square. You think freedom means you can use the government and the courts to impose “equality”. You think freedom means other people should pay for your medical care. You think freedom means Socialism.

  47. N. Simpson

    I believe freedom is exercising your god given right to live your life how you choose. But you believe that everyone should hold your belief structure that would actually strip the rights of others because they don’t hold the exact belief structure as you do. Your words alone show ignorance on a level that should be illegal, and I only pray that you are not that narrow minded in person. Start a revolution, so that your particular belief structure will be the only one adhered to? Which means that the premise that this country was founded on equal liberty and equal rights means nothing. I guess blacks, women and gays all are a lesser form of life as well? Because you are describing your own form of dictatorship. Follow YOUR beliefs and feelings, and the freedom of others is inconsequential. Interesting. I guess as long as you are happy, it matters not that popular and majority don’t rule? That the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many? I guess that the fact that your fellow country men and women VOTED to have the people in power that are there, means nothing to you? Complain all you want, but put yourself on a platform, and run for that office, and instigate the change that you want. If you are voted in, than you will know that people followed your ideals and your platform. You can then shove religion and your point of view down everyone’s throat. I mean really, if you are so unhappy, and the majority ruled in the elections, move. There are a lot of other places to live. Maybe North Korea? Russia? Iran? Syria? There are a lot of places where you can find like minded over zealous dictators with personal agendas not unlike your own.

  48. invar

    I believe freedom is exercising your god given right to live your life how you choose.

    That’s anarchy and not what the Founders protected and enshrined in the compacts that made us a nation. To quote John Adams “Our Constitution was made only for a religious and moral people. It is wholly inadequate to govern any other”. They understood what you people preach against – biblical morality.

    But you believe that everyone should hold your belief structure that would actually strip the rights of others because they don’t hold the exact belief structure as you do.

    You’re projecting again. Your support of Obama strips me of my money, property and rights. You use government to impose your belief structure on the rest of us and applaud punishments in fines, fees and imprisonment for non-compliance. The fact is, your Marxism and Socialism is antithetical and injurious to liberty. It’s a corrosive – like sin. It will never be content to co-exist. It will demand everything else be subjugated to itself. It will impose itself, under the color of “fairness’; “equality” and then the color of law.

    Your words alone show ignorance on a level that should be illegal,

    Ahhh yes. See, it only took a slight prodding for you to reveal your actual intent. You accuse me of wanting to force my belief system on others – yet you just stated that my words – my thoughts and beliefs should be ILLEGAL. That is what you MarxoFascists will ultimately impose on us – laws against what we think and believe. You just said it yourself. My words that you deem to be ignorant should be made illegal. I’m sure given an opportunity – you will advocate the government make it illegal to think in terms of what the State says is ‘ignorance’.

    So what shift will you choose to do guard duty at the Gulag comrade?

    Start a revolution, so that your particular belief structure will be the only one adhered to?

    You cretins began the ‘revolution’ against the Constitution and our Natural Rights. We intend to put an end to it. My grandfather fought the National SocialistFascists in Europe – now it’s my generation’s obligation to fight you MarxoFascists here.

    Which means that the premise that this country was founded on equal liberty and equal rights means nothing.

    You keep projecting. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and yes Uncle Adolf all began their dictatorial forms of despotic Socialism the same way you people advocate yours: ‘equality and equal rights’.

    I guess blacks, women and gays all are a lesser form of life as well?

    When did you stop beating your parents, spouse and kids?

    Because you are describing your own form of dictatorship.

    MarxoFascists will always tell you about their own motives by the motives they attribute to others.

    it matters not that popular and majority don’t rule?

    Seig Heil! Seig Heil! Amerika Uber Alles! Obama Eich bien der Fuhrer! Half this country can goose step to Obama and you MarxoFascist hordes, that still makes you an enemy of liberty and you will be resisted by any and all means possible.

    I guess that the fact that your fellow country men and women VOTED to have the people in power that are there, means nothing to you?

    Seig Heil! Seig Heil! Amerika Uber Alles! Obama Eich bien der Fuhrer! Half this country can goose step to Obama and you MarxoFascist hordes, that still makes you an enemy of liberty and you will be resisted by any and all means possible.

    There are a lot of other places to live. Maybe North Korea? Russia? Iran? Syria? There are a lot of places where you can find like minded over zealous dictators with personal agendas not unlike your own.

    MaroFascists will always tell you about their own motives by the motives they attribute to others.

  49. joe just joe

    BTW the ACA is not an illegal nor unconstitutional law. Don’t be silly.

    >> Obamacare is definitely illegal, unConstitutional, and blatant government tyranny.

    Congress and SCOTUS disagree, and I’ll accept their judgement over yours anytime.

    So you agree that this alleged threat of arrest is nothing but anti-Obama propaganda.

    >> When did you stop beating your spouse and kids? Fingerprints are never present from a despot to those carrying out insidious wishes. They call it ‘plausible deniability’.

    So you agree AGAIN that Obama never issued orders to arrest anyone for practicing their faith. BTW – just how many priests were arrested yesterday for conducting Mass on Military installations? 10? 100? 10,000?!?!?!?

    Or none?

  50. joe just joe

    BTW — invar — You might want to withhold posting your plans for sedition and for starting a shooting war against other Americans.

    Have a nice day.

  51. N. Simpson

    I’m still awaiting a coherent from you that address anything I said. All you do is repeat yourself and refuse to acknowledge what’s really going on. The problem is everyone else. You complain, and cry, but the facts don’t add up to anything you’ve said thus far. Its sad. You don’t even address civil liberty. Your inalienable right to live you life however you chose so long as you are not hurting anyone. And when god is in the mix, then you quote the founding fathers. You interpret life as it may have been 200 years ago without recognizing things change. Quote your bible, or quote history all you want, but take into consideration that there is more to the story than you choose to see. The bible is not a literal translation, but an interpretation. The bill of rights, and constitution are guidelines, and you misquote them and admonish others as you see fit. And yeah, when I said your way of thinking was misguided so bad that it should be illegal, you obviously cannot understand sarcasm. I suppose that if you read in the bible that Ezekiel talked about seeing aliens, that you would be convinced we are about to be invaded? The tissue is still here for the offering…..

  52. invar

    Congress and SCOTUS disagree

    Congress and SCOTUS also gave us the Dredd Scott decision and upheld segregation in the 50′s. There was this little Constitutional Amendment thing called ‘Prohibition’ too. Since when did Congress or SCOTUS suddenly have Papal powers that are irrevocable?

    Oh that’s right – when you Marxofascists are in power – what is ruled is permanent and set in stone for perpetuity.

    That is why you people are tyrants and need to be resisted.

    You might want to withhold posting your plans for sedition and for starting a shooting war against other Americans.

    So Sayeth the Crown. God save the king!

    Our Founders faced the same insidious threats and accusations that you MarxoFascists are making and accusing.

    We plan on following that blueprint to defend our liberties should your rulers and tyrants make that last mistake.

  53. N. Simpson

    So you want to hurt people to make them adhere to your point of view? What terrorist cell are you working for? Hurt innocent people because they feel differently than you…. That would make you a coward and a warmonger.

  54. invar

    All you do is repeat yourself and refuse to acknowledge what’s really going on.

    MarxoFascist Imperial Obama Socialistic tyranny is what is really going on. I’ll repeat that fact as often as necessary.

    the facts don’t add up to anything you’ve said thus far.

    So says the Obama-worshipping MarxoFascist. I can say the sky is blue, but if that doesn’t fit your Marxist political ideology – you will insist is isn’t.

    You don’t even address civil liberty.

    We know what your definition of ‘civil liberty’ is. Making thoughts, beliefs and ideas you consider to be ‘ignorant’ – ILLEGAL. Those are your own words. You have no clue what ‘Liberty’ is, beyond what you demand everyone else surrender so you can impose your own perversions of what constitutes ‘freedom’.

    Your inalienable right to live you life however you chose so long as you are not hurting anyone.

    Nice sales job but it doesn’t stay that way with you MarxoFascists. What you end up with is insisting that someone making more money, or owning more property, or worshipping Jesus Christ is hurting and offending you and the sensibilities of other Marxists like yourself. So you will empower government to punish those whom you decree are offensive to you.

    The truth is Mr. Simpson – you are a liar. You have no intention to allow others who do not follow in lock step with your horses of Socialists to live their lives without using government to molest them and take from them what you demand to be redistributed or prohibited. Including their thoughts and beliefs you deem to be ‘ignorant’.

    You are a tyrant and you support tyranny and you and yours will be resisted.

    You interpret life as it may have been 200 years ago without recognizing things change.

    Right. Hope and Change. The same elixir that the greatest genocidal dictators of our time sold to their duped masses that bought the lie. You MarxoFascists are imposing is tyranny over liberty under the color of populism and the law. History teaches us the results of what happens when you people get your way.

    Quote your bible, or quote history all you want,

    Right, because the bible and history are irrelevant in your ideology and world view. You have your own versions of them and you will impose them by force if necessary.

    The bible is not a literal translation, but an interpretation.

    So says the MarxoFascist who thinks he can decree what is from God and what is not.

    The bill of rights, and constitution are guidelines,

    Right, so why bother even having a Constitution if we can change it on a whim? Four wolves and a sheep deciding what’s for dinner is the way things ought to be according to you. See, your own words define you to be an enemy of liberty and the Constitution.

    And yeah, when I said your way of thinking was misguided so bad that it should be illegal

    Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks – or the fingers type.

    you obviously cannot understand sarcasm.

    Pathetic attempt of a walk-back. You meant what you said, or you would not have written it.

    I suppose that if you read in the bible that Ezekiel talked about seeing aliens, that you would be convinced we are about to be invaded? The tissue is still here for the offering…..

    Ezekiel was talking about seeing the glories of the Third Heaven and the Angelic beings. Of course someone who disregards the bible (and the Constitution) would decree that what Ezekiel saw was “aliens” about to invade us.

    Then again, as Zechariah 14 and Revelation 19 reveal – the world is going to see the Returning Jesus Christ In Glory as an enemy – and mount an assault against Him.

    Maybe you will be at the front of the pack insisting He is an alien invader.

  55. joe just joe

    Congress and SCOTUS disagree

    >> Congress and SCOTUS also gave us the Dredd Scott decision and upheld segregation in the 50′s.

    Congress gave us the Dredd Scott decision? Do tell.

    >> There was this little Constitutional Amendment thing called ‘Prohibition’ too.

    Now you question the Amendment process?

    >> Since when did Congress or SCOTUS suddenly have Papal powers that are irrevocable? Oh that’s right – when you Marxofascists are in power – what is ruled is permanent and set in stone for perpetuity. That is why you people are tyrants and need to be resisted.

    Ummm, huh?!?

    You might want to withhold posting your plans for sedition and for starting a shooting war against other Americans.

    >> So Sayeth the Crown. God save the king! Our Founders faced the same insidious threats and accusations that you MarxoFascists are making and accusing. We plan on following that blueprint to defend our liberties should your rulers and tyrants make that last mistake.

    The Founding Fathers violated British laws when they wrote the Declaration of Independence. Nice to see you’re ADMITTING to sedition. Good to know where the thugs are.

  56. invar

    So you want to hurt people to make them adhere to your point of view?

    Thats what you MarxoFascist supporters of Obama are already doing. You of course said that you would want to make my beliefs and thoughts illegal. So the one who would be willing to use government to hurt people and make them adhere to your point of view is YOU and those of your ideology.

    We have a God-granted right and history to resist tyranny by force when it’s attempted to be imposed on us. Using government via a despotic wannabe tyrant and a Ruling Class politburo to impose your Hope and Change under the color of law is no different than the Intolerable Acts Parliament imposed on the Colonists. History teaches that without fail – such tyranny always sends in troops to force the State’s will upon their chosen subjects.

    We plan to resist and defy you and your rulers, by all means – same as our Forbears did against the tyranny attempted to be imposed by the legal authority of the Crown. You have NO AUTHORITY when it contravenes the laws and gifts of God.

    What terrorist cell are you working for?

    You would call it the TEA Party, Extremist Republicans, Racist Conservatives, or whatever other demagoguery your ideology has already flung countless times against us.

    Hurt innocent people because they feel differently than you…. That would make you a coward and a warmonger.

    When you come against our liberty, our Rights, our Wealth and property under the color of “Change” and “Law” – then you are not exactly innocent. That makes you supporters of tyranny. And if defending those inalienable rights to life, liberty and happiness is warmongering – then I happily accept your charge as a supreme compliment.

    We’re waiting for you to make that last mistake.

    Don’t tread on us.

  57. wkdkween

    I you conservatives EVER read the Constitution, you would find that Congress is obligated to pay the Government’s bills. They are refusing to do this. This is AGAINST the Constitution, which they are sworn to uphold. So, who’s illegal now?

  58. invar

    We’re waiting for you. Come and get us.

    Oh, but then like all cowards – you’ll use the government to do your evil.

    But go ahead regardless. Were waiting for that last mistake to be made.

  59. invar

    I you conservatives EVER read the Constitution, you would find that Congress is obligated to pay the Government’s bills. They are refusing to do this. This is AGAINST the Constitution, which they are sworn to uphold. So, who’s illegal now?

    What an ignoramus. Here, let me give you a free lesson in fact and history – words from James Madison – FATHER of the Constitution:

    “The House of Representatives can not only refuse, but they alone can propose the supplies requisite for the support of Government. They, in a word, hold the purse; that powerful instrument by which we behold, in the history of the British Constitution, an infant and humble representation of the People gradually enlarging the sphere of its activity and importance, and finally reducing, as far as it seems to have wished, all the overgrown prerogatives of the other branches of the Government. This power over the purse may, in fact, be regarded as the most complete and effectual weapon, with which any Constitution can arm the immediate Representatives of the People, for obtaining a redress of every grievance, and for carrying into effect every just and salutary measure.”

    – James Madison, Federalist Papers #58 (1788)

  60. wkdkween

    The Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution’\

    Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.

    Congress authorized the debt and must fund it.

  61. Any TRUE man (or woman) of faith who does not continue to conduct their services are facing a much more severe consequence than what this president could inflict on them. Some of the worlds best Godly people were prisoners. If you truly stand for God be prepared to suffer trials for your belief. WE NEED TO BE IN CONTINUOUS PRAYER FOR OUR PASTORS, PRIESTS, RABBIS AND POLITICAL LEADERS

  62. invar

    So like all Marxofascists – you think that Obama can continue to spend money, run up TRILLIONS of dollars in debt to redistribute wealth and make political monuments to himself – while asserting that the Constitution FORCES us all to keep paying for a limitless credit card binge????

    What you MarxoFascists are doing is attempting to give a justification for Obama to act like the dictator he aspires to be and raise the Debt Ceiling (Credit Limit) on his own authority.

    Congress is using it’s Constitutional authority to defund Obamacare just as Madison wrote they have the power to do in Federalist 58.

  63. DEMOCRAT here’sw the trum meaning of the word. It’s amazing how leaving out or changing just a frw letters can change the whone meaning.
    DEMO THE “N” HAS BEEN REMOVED. LET’S PUT IT BACK
    “DEMON” – NOW TAKE CRAT AND PUT BACK THE LETTER THAT WAS REMOVED IT’S AN “F” FOR “CRAFT”
    GET THE PICTURE? “DEMON CRAFT”

  64. invar

    If you truly stand for God be prepared to suffer trials for your belief.

    Something most Christians in this country think do not apply to them. I lived in a third world slum. I saw REAL persecution of Christians. I suffer with their plight to this very day – and I can tell you that if we think we are ready to endure persecution with our faith intact – we need to rethink that equation because we have no clue what most brethren in the world suffer daily for simply deciding to live as a Christian.

    Misery, day in and day out – not knowing that when they wake up if this day they will be beaten, cheated or killed – LEGALLY. We have no experience with that kind of life, where the entirety of society hates your very existence and works to persecute you.

    We do need to pray for not just those who shepherd and pastor us – but those who simply are willing to walk with Christ and suffer for it.

    Let us pray for endurance to the end.

    Because that is where I truly fear the Christian church in America is going to fail.

  65. Tena

    Ok first Invar I have no idea what a MarxoFascist is and really don’t care.Also your wrong Obamacare came into effect in 2010. There are still many parts of it that have yet to take effect though. also is the name calling really necessary. This woman’s life was saved because of Obamacare. Why can’t you accept that? I myself would not be able get insurance if it were not for obamacare because of a preexisting condition. So yes I am for Obamacare. he is simply trying to give Americans the ability to get affordable health care. How would you feel if you were unable to go to the doctors because you couldn’t afford it and couldn’t get insurance because you had a preexisting condition? Stop being selfish and think about all the other people out there who need this.I also find it amazing that you have enough time in your life to argue back and forth with people all day long. Do you have a job or just sit at the computer waiting for someone to comment so you can troll them. I wrote one sentence and posted a pic and you wrote and autobiography off of it. Get life dude.

  66. invar

    I have no idea what a MarxoFascist is and really don’t care.

    Of course not. You people have no problem with administering Marxist/Socialist/Collectivist tyranny. It’s your religion.

    Also your wrong Obamacare came into effect in 2010

    When was it Obama signed that illegal legislation into so-called “law”??? Oh that’s right…2010!

    This woman’s life was saved because of Obamacare. Why can’t you accept that?

    Because you are fomenting a LIE. You just said that Obamacare has not taken effect yet. So how the HELL does anyone’s “life get saved” because of it?? All that is in effect now aside from erecting the monstrous bureaucracy is allowing the little people to “sign up” and register at the Exchanges. Not a SINGLE person has received insurance through Obamacare yet. Not a single claim has been paid for or processed through Obamacare. The sign up itself has proven to be a complete DISASTER.

    So yes I am for Obamacare. he is simply trying to give Americans the ability to get affordable health care.

    Of course you are for tyranny. You want a free hand-out from your messiah. Those that were able to get on the Obamacare site are discovering that the price is so ridiculously high, they are better off paying cash for healthcare. The average price of the cheapest Obamacare plan is $8,000 in premiums PER PERSON with – a $13,000.00 DEDUCTIBLE.

    How would you feel if you were unable to go to the doctors because you couldn’t afford it and couldn’t get insurance because you had a preexisting condition?

    I already HAVE a pre-existing condition. I pay extra for insurance and/or pay cash. How would you like to have the government force you to work for free and force you to run your business at a loss in profit? That’s what Obamacare does.

    Stop being selfish and think about all the other people out there who need this.

    YOU GO AND PAY FOR THEIR HEALTHCARE THEN WITH YOUR OWN MONEY. Stop being selfish with EVERYONE ELSE’S money!!

    I also find it amazing that you have enough time in your life to argue back and forth with people all day long.

    It’s call liberty lady. Something worth arguing about and more.

    Do you have a job or just sit at the computer waiting for someone to comment so you can troll them.

    I run my own business and do as I please with my own things including their blog. Trolling? You showed up at MY HOUSE lady and left your crap on MY doorstep. I’ll respond accordingly.

    But speaking of trolling, it’s interesting that you Obama-worshipping hordes have been busy trolling every Conservative discussion board and blog of late.

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