Danger From The South: Inciting A Socialist Revolution In America

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To compound the problems America is already beset with our faltering economy and the war on Jihadists – comes word that Venezuela, having allied itself with Iran, is sponsoring forums to promote a militant Socialist Revolution in America.

Given the Socialist slide America is already on, and the precarious situation in Mexico, Communists like Chavez think America is ripe for chaos, revolution and takeover, from both invasion from the South, and from revolution within.

Venezuela forum debates prospects for revolution in U.S.

CARACAS, Venezuela—A five-day rolling panel discussion on “United States: A possible revolution” was the central event at the third Venezuela International Book Fair, which took place here November 9-18.

The 22 panelists, four or five of whom spoke each day, included political activists and writers from the United States expressing diverse political views, as well as a number of U.S. citizens living in Venezuela. Hundreds of Venezuelans and others took part in one or more sessions, with dozens raising questions and making comments from the floor. The forum was covered by Venezuelan television, radio, and newspapers. The issues debated on the character of the working class and prospects for revolution in the United States sparked a political discussion that permeated the book fair. An article on the fair itself will appear in next week’s Militant.

The forum kicked off November 10 with presentations by Mary-Alice Waters, a member of the Socialist Workers Party National Committee and president of Pathfinder Press; Eva Golinger, a Venezuelan-American lawyer and author of The Chávez Code; Chris Carlson, a contributor to the venezuelanalysis.com website; and Tufara Waller, cultural program coordinator of the Highlander Center in Tennessee. The issues joined at that first session remained at the center of the debate the following four days. (See “Venezuela book fair theme: ‘U.S., a possible revolution’” in last week’s Militant.)

In addition to the forum panelists mentioned below, others included Bernardo álvarez, Venezuela’s ambassador to the United States; former University of Colorado professor Ward Churchill; August Nimtz, a University of Minnesota political science professor; William Blum, an author who has written a number of books opposing U.S. foreign policy; ex-Maryknoll priest Charles Hardy; and Dada Maheshvarananda, yoga instructor and founder of the Prout Institute.

Debate over immigrant workers The political perspectives most sharply debated over the five days were, first, the impact and importance of millions of Latin American immigrant workers in the United States, and, second, the history of revolutionary struggles of working people in the United States and the lessons of those struggles for revolutionary prospects. In a striking way, the discussion registered that those living and engaged in the class struggle in the United States generally expressed greater confidence in the revolutionary capacities of working people there than did those—both U.S. citizens and many Latin American participants—living outside the United States.

Several panelists are active in work to expand rights for immigrants in the United States. These included Diógenes Abreu, a Dominican-born community organizer who currently lives in New York; Luis Rodríguez, a Chicano activist in California’s San Fernando Valley; and Gustavo Torres, an organizer for the immigrant rights group Casa de Maryland. Several of them gave a vivid and accurate picture of conditions of life for immigrant workers in the United States and the growing resistance and confidence manifested in strikes and ongoing street mobilizations against raids and deportations.

Both Torres and Antonio González, president of the Southwest Voter Education and Registration Project, said the road to “empowerment” is organizing Latinos to vote. “What does a revolutionary do in the U.S. today?” asked González. “Take power wherever you can” by electing Latinos to city, state, and federal offices. His PowerPoint presentation highlighted the growing number of Latino voters.

During the discussion periods day after day, a number of participants from Venezuela and elsewhere in Latin America took exception to the evidence that immigrant workers resisting the superexploitation they face in the United States are an important force in the working-class vanguard that is emerging there. In various ways, several said that Latin Americans living and working in the United States are simply there to get “a piece of the pie.”

“They are only there to get passports,” said one participant. “Once they get them they’ll stop marching.” Many characterized immigrant workers as sellouts who have bought into the “American dream” at the expense of fighting for political, economic, and social change in Latin America.

In the discussion, Carlos Samaniego, a packinghouse worker from Minnesota, countered this view. He described the vanguard role that immigrant workers are playing in struggles in the United States—from coal mines in the West to union struggles in Midwest slaughterhouses.

America’s revolutionary heritage The other hotly debated question was the revolutionary history of toilers in the United States and, by extension, prospects for a Third American Revolution, a socialist revolution.

“America was created by revolution,” said panelist Lee Sustar, labor editor of the Socialist Worker newspaper, which reflects the views of the International Socialist Organization. Speaking at the November 13 session, he referred to the U.S. Civil War as “the completion of the bourgeois democratic revolution” that had won independence for the 13 British colonies some 80 years earlier.

“There has never been a revolution in the United States, and anyone who thinks there has been is ignorant of their own history,” responded panelist Richard Gott, a British author and journalist. Gott said the American Revolution, which defeated British colonial rule, could not be considered a revolution. Rather, it was a war to take land from Native American tribes, whose territory, he said, was being protected by the British royal army.

“No, a revolution is not possible in the United States,” said Gott. “It is conservative and reactionary. The only hope is Latin America.”

“I want to express my total agreement,” interjected Haiman El Troudi, the moderator of the panel that day. “There never has been a revolution in the United States and never will be!” El Troudi has held several offices in the Chávez government and written books including Being Capitalist is Bad Business and History of the Bolivarian Revolution.

“It is impossible for a revolution to begin in the United States,” said a Venezuelan participant from the floor. He pointed to what he considered U.S. workers’ complicity with Washington’s wars against Iraq and Afghanistan as proof that working people there are desensitized to injustice.

But in remarks during the November 11 panel, ex-Marine and founder of Iraq Veterans Against the War Jimmy Massey described his evolution from a prowar patriot to a staunch opponent of the war in Iraq. He walked through day-to-day experiences in Iraq that led him to oppose U.S. policies in the Middle East and to organize fellow soldiers to do the same.

Another idea frequently expressed by speakers from the floor and by a few panelists was that “change has to come from the South,” referring to Latin America. Many said the only hope was to wait until enough countries in Latin America close their doors to imperialist penetration so as to cause a collapse in the U.S. economy. The fact that nowhere in Latin America but Cuba have working people yet successfully carried through to victory the kind of revolutionary struggle necessary to end imperialist domination received scant attention.

Some participants argued that U.S. capitalism would be thrown into crisis if enough leftist governments were elected in Latin America and refused to sign bilateral “free-trade” agreements with Washington or join the U.S.-initiated Free Trade Area of the Americas. Others pointed to popular struggles in Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia, and Nicaragua as being the key to educating working people in the United States. Despite different arguments and emphases, the point of agreement was that no initiative could be expected from working people inside the imperialist bastion.

A contrasting point of view was presented by Héctor Pesquera, a leader of the Hostosiano Independence Movement of Puerto Rico. “The Puerto Rican struggle is connected to the North American revolution,” he said. Pesquera summarized the worsening conditions facing both working people in Puerto Rico and Puerto Ricans living in New York. Pointing to the movement that forced Washington to withdraw its naval bases from the Puerto Rican island of Vieques, Pesquera noted that this blow to the U.S. rulers had strengthened social movements in the United States.

“I’m going to take issue with what every one of you has said,” stated Amiri Baraka, a poet from Newark, New Jersey, speaking from the audience. Baraka, a panelist on the closing day of the event, has been active in Black nationalist, Maoist, and Democratic Party politics since the 1960s. Attacking Sustar for not identifying himself as a “Trotskyite,” and falsely accusing fellow panelist George Katsiaficas of introducing himself as a former member of the Black Panthers, Baraka’s intervention was the first time in four days of sharp debate that the tone of civil discourse was breached.

Final session “When I first heard the theme of this forum, I thought it was a joke,” said Steve Brouwer, an American living in Venezuela and writing a book on peasant cooperatives. Brouwer was a panelist at the final session. “But the more I thought about what is happening in the world, the more I listened to my Latino brothers here, the more I became convinced that revolutionary change in the U.S. is possible.”

Brouwer said that working-class complacency in the United States in the 1920s had given way to labor battles in the 1930s that shaped U.S. politics for 45 years. He cited a “mildly progressive” Democratic Party, influenced by these developments in the labor movement, as key to what he called a progressive course that ended with the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980.

Amiri Baraka and Amina Baraka were also panelists at the final session.

Amina Baraka, introducing herself as “a Black woman who is a communist who uses the cultural arena,” spoke about her work and read a poem.

Amiri Baraka came back to the previous day’s discussion, disagreeing with Gott and others who denied the two great revolutions in U.S. history. He also disagreed with Sustar’s characterization of the Civil War as the completion of the bourgeois democratic revolution.

“That revolution has never been completed,” Baraka said. “There is still no democracy for Blacks.” He proposed that Blacks and Latinos, including the “progressive” Black bourgeoisie, unite around a program to abolish the electoral college; establish a unicameral parliamentary system; ban “private money” from election campaigns; make voting compulsory; and restore voting rights to felons. Such constitutional reforms, he said, would shift power towards “people’s democracy” in the United States. Revolutionary goals could then be put on the agenda.

What has derailed all previous revolutionary struggles in the United States, Baraka argued, is “white privilege.” He citied the defeat of Radical Reconstruction following the Civil War, the failure of the 1930s labor upsurge to go further, and the decline of the mass movement that brought down Jim Crow segregation as three examples. Moreover, “white privilege” and the failure of the “white left” to fight it remain the primary obstacle to struggles today.

Baraka also renewed his attack on Katsiaficas, who had spoken about Asian student struggles on the panel the previous day. Baraka accused him of being an agent trying to stir up support in Venezuela for student marches against the government of Hugo Chávez.

Baraka concluded by reading his poem, “Somebody Blew Up America,” a Spanish translation of which was distributed to participants. Written after September 11, 2001, the poem presents a long list of historical atrocities, interlacing anti-imperialist and anticapitalist rhetoric with conspiracy theories of history and anti-Semitism. “Who decide Jesus get crucified,” the poem asks. “Who knew the World Trade Center was gonna get bombed / Who told 4000 Israeli workers at the Twin Tower / To stay home that day / Why did Sharon stay away?”

During the opening day of the panel, a participant from Panama had said during the discussion that Jews are the main problem facing working people in the world today because “they have all the money” and control everything. Norton Sandler, a member of the Socialist Workers Party in the United States, spoke from the floor the next day and pointed to the danger of scapegoating and Jew-hatred for the working-class movement.

After Baraka’s remarks the final day, Mary-Alice Waters took the floor to thank the organizers of the book fair “for bringing together diverse forces for such a broad variety of views for the discussion that took place here.” She stressed the importance of civil debate, noting that “the poison of agent- and race-baiting should be rejected by all.”

Some prominent speakers invited to take part in the central forum were unable to make it during that event, but joined the discussion in the following days.

A November 17 program on “Liberation, Imagination, Black Panthers” featuring Kathleen Cleaver, former national spokesperson for the Black Panther Party, was one of the larger events of the fair outside the central forum. A video interview with Noam Chomsky, the well-known author, anarchist, and a linguistics professor, was played after the conclusion of the forum, and a booklet containing a translation of his comments was distributed for free.

Ramón Medero, president of Venezuela’s National Book Center, the sponsor of the fair, expressed his appreciation to all the panelists whose efforts had contributed to the success of the event, and satisfaction that the fair served to open a much-needed political discussion.

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27 responses to “Danger From The South: Inciting A Socialist Revolution In America

  1. Omayra

    I am interested in obtaining more information on the person by the name of Diogenes Abreu mentioned in the blog. I think I know him and would greatly appreciate more info. Thank you.

  2. Bobby Siecker

    Communism* is good. It is the highest form of democracy and guarantees freedom and prosperity for all the of human kind. Capitalism is undemocratic by nature, only the bourgoisie really profit from economic development and only when you got money, then freedom is not expensive.

    So you should welcome a socialist revolution in the Americas, and fight for a revolution in the United States aswell.

    Long live the international working class!

    Oh and Chavez is not a communist. He’s just a leftist populist. And his alliance with the reactionairy regime in Iran is a big proof of him not being a commie.

    However, when the working class could take over controll in the social current that is currently evident in latin america, some good things might going to happen.

    Greetings from the Netherlands.

    *Do not confuse the therm “communism” with “stalinism”. They are two entierly different things.

  3. invar

    Communism guarantees nothing but slavery and despotism, and contrary to your insipid ideal – communism and republican democracy are incompatible.

    America is not, nor ever was intended to be a Democracy.

    We are a Representative REPUBLIC with a democratic method of electing representatives.

    Democracy is nothing but mobocracy – where twelve wolves and one lamb decide what’s for dinner, majority vote wins.

    Democracies always fall into anarchy and despotism, usually some commie dictator takes over .

    But seeing as you send greetings from the Netherlands, is it not more truthful to state your own communistic ideals have made you nothing but Dhimmis for the Muslims about to conquer you?

    Communism is evil, period, it is why it has such an easy alliance with Jihadists.

    And this site will stand against it, call it the evil enemy it is and fight it at every quarter without mercy.

    Communism kills both liberty and body – in short, it sucks and needs to be defeated everywhere it shows it’s ugly head.

  4. devin

    yeah, communists are horrible. look what Castro did in cuba. raised wages, built schools and hospitals, established universal healthcare… what a horrible thing…

  5. invar

    Yes Communists are horrible.

    Castro did none of those things you say. He murdered perhaps tens of thousands of Cubans if not more.

    Hospitals for average Cubans are NOTHING what the willing dupe and useful idiot Michael Moore was shown to film.

    Schools are nothing but indoctrination centers.

    If things are so rosy in Cuba after all these years of Communist rule – why have so many risked their lives to come to America?

    If things are so rosy under Communism – why don’t you live there instead of trying to import it here?

    It will be better for everyone. You will be happy, and we will be happy to have you there, amongst your own ideologues.

  6. Y’all are complete idiots if you think that the democratic party holds a Marxist ideology. Or even if you think socialism is bad in any way whatsoever.

  7. If Cuban hospitals suck so much, why do they have better health stats? God, people can be stupid.

  8. And in response to your headline, of course George Washington wasn’t a Deist. He didn’t do much of the writing either. Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and John Adams were deists. They also wrote everything. You can’t bitch about Islamic Republicans and then support theocracy.

  9. Comrade Novoa

    Yes Communists are horrible.

    Castro did none of those things you say. He murdered perhaps tens of thousands of Cubans if not more.

    Hospitals for average Cubans are NOTHING what the willing dupe and useful idiot Michael Moore was shown to film.

    Schools are nothing but indoctrination centers.

    If things are so rosy in Cuba after all these years of Communist rule – why have so many risked their lives to come to America?

    If things are so rosy under Communism – why don’t you live there instead of trying to import it here?

    It will be better for everyone. You will be happy, and we will be happy to have you there, amongst your own ideologues.

    “Castro murdered tens of thousands of Cubans.”
    And what are your sources?

    “Hospitals are nothing like the willing dupe and useful idiot Michael Moore was shown to film.”
    Really now? and have you been to Cuba?

    “Schools are nothing but indoctrination centers.”
    O yea they’re much better than that in this country..

    “If things are so rosy in Cuba after all these years of Communist rule – why have so many risked their lives to come to America?”

    Naturally, there are always people who disagree with the status quo and flee a country. British loyalists did the same after the American Revolution.

    “If things are so rosy under Communism – why don’t you live there instead of trying to import it here?

    It will be better for everyone. You will be happy, and we will be happy to have you there, amongst your own ideologues.”

    What an absolutely ignorant and fascistic statement. Importing it here would be better for everyone.

  10. invar

    Yeah, this is the kind of gross imbecillity one would expect from a Commie-Lib Socialist propagandist like yourself.

    “Castro murdered tens of thousands of Cubans.”
    And what are your sources?

    http://www.therealcuba.com/page5.htm

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0895260433/ref=nosim/enterstageright/

    http://www.amazon.com/Exposing-Real-Che-Guevara-Idolize/dp/1595230270/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-8236430-6806347?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1180603569&sr=1-1

    Those are just for starters.

    If Cuban hospitals suck so much, why do they have better health stats?

    Like we’re going to trust what Comrade Fidel says?

    Refugees from Castro’s Cuba are repleat with the real truth of what your vaunted Cuban Healthcare system is like.

    Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and John Adams were deists

    The proof provided in this site more than adequately proves your ignorance dead wrong, or deliberate falsehood. All of the Founders you mention were ardent Christians, and not Deists.

    Importing [Communist Socialism] here would be better for everyone.

    You might as well try convincing Christians that importing Satanism is better for them.

    Yours is an evil ideology, incompatible with liberty. Be prepared to be resisted with all force and vigor such attempts to ‘import’ such tyranny.

    I for one will give no quarter to such enemies of our true liberty.

  11. Comrade Novoa

    Yeah, this is the kind of gross imbecillity one would expect from a Commie-Lib Socialist propagandist like yourself.

    “Castro murdered tens of thousands of Cubans.”
    And what are your sources?

    http://www.therealcuba.com/page5.htm

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0895260433/ref=nosim/enterstageright/

    http://www.amazon.com/Exposing-Real-Che-Guevara-Idolize/dp/1595230270/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-8236430-6806347?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1180603569&sr=1-1

    Those are just for starters.

    If Cuban hospitals suck so much, why do they have better health stats?

    Like we’re going to trust what Comrade Fidel says?

    Refugees from Castro’s Cuba are repleat with the real truth of what your vaunted Cuban Healthcare system is like.

    Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and John Adams were deists

    The proof provided in this site more than adequately proves your ignorance dead wrong, or deliberate falsehood. All of the Founders you mention were ardent Christians, and not Deists.

    Importing [Communist Socialism] here would be better for everyone.

    You might as well try convincing Christians that importing Satanism is better for them.

    Yours is an evil ideology, incompatible with liberty. Be prepared to be resisted with all force and vigor such attempts to ‘import’ such tyranny.

    I for one will give no quarter to such enemies of our true liberty.

    “Yeah, this is the kind of gross imbecillity one would expect from a Commie-Lib Socialist propagandist like yourself.”
    And what are you, some Ultra-Right Wing member of the Republican Party? This is the exact kind of response I’d expect from someone of that sort.

    Those Cubans executed were traitors and were compromising the Revolution by giving information to Batista’s henchmen. Or committing terrorist attacks launched from Miami. You want to recommend a book to me? Read Killing Hope by William Blum.


    Like we’re going to trust what Comrade Fidel says?

    Refugees from Castro’s Cuba are repleat with the real truth of what your vaunted Cuban Healthcare system is like.”

    Why shouldn’t we trust Castro? Yea I’d trust the refugees who have a reason to lie.

    “Importing [Communist Socialism] here would be better for everyone.

    You might as well try convincing Christians that importing Satanism is better for them.

    Yours is an evil ideology, incompatible with liberty. Be prepared to be resisted with all force and vigor such attempts to ‘import’ such tyranny.

    I for one will give no quarter to such enemies of our true liberty.”

    Importing Communist Socialism? They’re too different things. Socialism being the beginning stage and Communism the final.

    Yea an evil ideology alright. A system that wants to provide free healthcare, housing, transportation, etc. to everyone regardless of race/creed.

    True liberty? hardly. Humor me, define “your true liberty.”

  12. invar

    And what are you, some Ultra-Right Wing member of the Republican Party?

    No, those guys are wimps compared to me.

    I’m a Conservative Constitutionalist with a hatred of things anathema to my liberty, notably Socialists and Communist idiots who worship at the altar of Marx.

    I’m happy to eviscerate and disembowel ideologies such as yours, and show them for the utter crap and tyranny that they are.

    Those Cubans executed were traitors and were compromising the Revolution by giving information to Batista’s henchmen. Or committing terrorist attacks launched from Miami.

    Oh look, Baghdad Bob got a job working as a Propaganda spokesman for Fidel. You’re scum, justifying and excusing mass slaughter and execution. How typical of Commie lovers such as yourself.

    Why shouldn’t we trust Castro? Yea I’d trust the refugees who have a reason to lie.

    And Mass Murdering Tyrants that you worship like Fidel don’t?

    Thats’ like trying to convince us that Hitler murdered Jews in self defense.

    Yea an evil ideology alright. A system that wants to provide free healthcare, housing, transportation, etc. to everyone regardless of race/creed.

    Satan always transforms himself into an angel of light, and genocidal tyrants always promise free this and that.

    Humor me, define “your true liberty.”

    When people with your ideology are rendered irrelevant, laughed out of any serious discussion and tossed on the ashheap of history.

    We will then have liberty from the scourge of the ideology that plagues mankind with despotism, slavery and death.

  13. I do trust what Castro says. But you don’t have to. I would think you would trust your own government’s CIA Factbook, though.

    Cubans leave Cuba because it’s poor, just like it was before communism. They could come to the US safely if it weren’t for your government’s restrictions. The upper classes came in mass by planes shortly after the Revolution. Now they come by rafts.

  14. invar

    I do trust what Castro says.

    Says everything about you we need to know.

    You should move there, immediately and consider yourself in paradise. Go, and enjoy your serfdom.

    The Liberty that we have in America is incompatible with the Socialism that you champion.

  15. Comrade Novoa

    “Oh look, Baghdad Bob got a job working as a Propaganda spokesman for Fidel. You’re scum, justifying and excusing mass slaughter and execution. How typical of Commie lovers such as yourself.”

    “Baghdad Bob”, good one, I’m sure your one of those fools who thought we needed to invade Iraq to stop terrorism too, right? I’m not the scum here you are, especially considering when the revolution does triumph I won’t be the one in front of the firing squad.

    Castro hasn’t any reason to lie because he hasn’t done anything wrong. But I’ll tell who does have reason to lie, the Administration governing this country.

  16. invar

    I’m not the scum here you are, especially considering when the revolution does triumph I won’t be the one in front of the firing squad.

    Your stupid Marxist “revolution” in America will not triumph without a cost you are not willing to pay, and your threats do not intimidate me, only embolden me to see you as the enemies you truly are.

    If you think for one second you are going to be able to put Americans like me in front of a Communist firing squad of goons, you have another thing coming.

    Keep pushing this evil ideology on us, and you are going to run into Americans who are going to make you regret you ever wore a red Che T-shirt. Stock up on kevlar, you and your ‘revolutionistas’ will need it.

  17. Comrade Novoa

    Now see, that’s where you’re wrong. I am willing to pay any price. I’m not threatening you, I’m promising you. Tell me, what do I have coming? You keep pushing your evil ideology on us and you’re going to run into true Americans who are going to make you regret you ever supported such a system.

  18. invar

    I’m not threatening you, I’m promising you

    I’ll be waiting.

    And you are no American.

    You’re an enemy of everything America was founded on and stands for.

  19. “You should move there, immediately and consider yourself in paradise. Go, and enjoy your serfdom.

    The Liberty that we have in America is incompatible with the Socialism that you champion.”

    This proves you’re just an illiterate Klan member. I can’t just up and move to Cuba, retard. It’s expensive, and I don’t know anybody there.

    And you’ve obviously never been to a socialist country if you think America is so much more free. You can do whatever the hell you want in China. In America, there are police all over the place. Note that America has the highest incarceration rate in the world, in total and per capita.

  20. invar

    This proves you’re just an illiterate Klan member.

    You’d love to believe that wouldn’t you?

    Al you have proven is that you’re a Communist Propagandist.

    I am amused that you and your pals at the World Worker’s Party decided to target this site and try to engage us in ideological combat.

    Truth is, you enemies of liberty will not get away with spewing your slavish garbage here.

    I can’t just up and move to Cuba, retard. It’s expensive, and I don’t know anybody there.

    Are you kidding? All your ideological comrades are there, you will feel right at home, and Americans would be happy to see you go. I’d bet since you Communists all believe in share and share alike, that you could hit your Socialist pals up for some evil capitalist dollars to see your way to Fidel’s paradise.

    And you’ve obviously never been to a socialist country if you think America is so much more free.

    You would be wrong.

    In America, there are police all over the place. Note that America has the highest incarceration rate in the world, in total and per capita.

    That is because we believe in the rule of law, and in Socialist countries, the criminals are not incarcerated because they are running the government or the drug cartels working for the government.

    Plus, in Communist nations, their incarceration rate is not the same as America’s because in those countries, they just shoot you dead and send the bill for the bullet to your family.

  21. This is hilarious. “Ripe for chaos & takeover????”. The minute people start suggesting that power be given BACK to the people, as the original US democracy model was based on, blood sucking capitalist parasites like yourself start screaming that the “commies are coming”.

    Wouldn’t want to lose any of your precious profits, would you?

    Instead of running around looking for reasons to burn witches, gays, communists or anyone that may oppose your little “business as usual” garbage, how about you let humanity start evolving away from your little exploitation model and keep your fear driven dribble to yourself.

    SCART of
    The MOLOTOV

  22. invar

    See, the difference is that Socialist scum and Marxist tyrant wannabe’s like yourself LIE about the original U.S. democracy model, because there NEVER WAS a democracy established for America.

    We were never intended or set up as a democracy, the word democracy appears not even once in any of our Founding Documents.

    We are a representative republic, and the lying claim of ‘Power back to the people’ is the same propaganda BS that every Communist tyrant uses to usurp power for their despotic regimes.

    Americans do not suffer from capitalism, they suffer the blood and money-sucking parasites of the Welfare State and socialist government programs that rob from the producers to give to their chosen dependent constituencies that keep them in permanent power.

    As to profits, I earn a paycheck like most and after I am robbed by taxes, what is left of my money is demanded to be regulated in terms of what I can buy, eat, watch or do by the same sickening socialist busy-bodies that are your comrades.

    Instead of running around trying to pervert America into some kind of twisted Socialist utopia, why don’t you go live in Cuba, China or North Korea where you will be happier?

    INVAR with
    The BLADE

  23. ian

    hes kind of right. the real people of the world like us should just give up on people like him who think like children. ive had it with this country and im leaving as soon as i have the money to establish myself somewhere else.

  24. OMG teh REdz r cUmin

    “Given the Socialist slide America is already on”
    This single phrase totally squashed any credibility that the author may have possessed. What a stupid thing to say.

  25. yoya

    Hi, I’m writing a paper for my class about prospects for a socialist revolution in the U.S.A
    Will someone be willing to give some insights?

    Thanks

  26. invar

    Yes, read Obama’s books and listen to his speeches and what he has already done, and you will have the program Saul Alinsky wrote in his book Rules for Radicals that Obama is using to implement a Marxist revolution.

  27. Diogenes Abreu

    Para Omayra:
    Creo que tambien te conozco. Puedes escribirme a:
    jolopero@yahoo.com

    Salud!!

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