Ron Paul: Earmarks Prove He’s Just Another Lying Politician

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While being shouted down by the Ron Paul Mob Zombies that their candidate is the equivalent of the Second or Third Coming of the Messiah, I have steadfastly maintained that Ron Paul is just another politician, and a career politican at that.

18 years in Congress and a Presidential run as a Libertarian, I’m thinking he has spent more time as a politician than as the good and holy doctor his throngs worship him as. You cannot convince me that Ron Paul is some kind of holy and pure Washington ‘outsider’ as his Mob Zombies claim, along with miracles they say he is going to perform to do everything from abolishing the IRS to creating peace on earth by playing freinds with all our enemies. Ron Paul is a politician, and as such, it was only a matter of time before lies, spin, inconsistencies and holes would show in his platform that his parishoners deem scripture.

WND nails, and I do mean NAILS the fact that Ron Paul is just another lying sneaky scum of a politician, that has a lighter case of the disease that plagues Washington.

But have it he does, and as such, his contagion makes him far from the leprous-free messiah his Mob Zombies insist that he is.

Earmark this, Ron Paul!

By Joseph Farah

Despite being called every name in the book and then some by rabid Ron Paul supporters over the last year, I still had a modicum of respect for the candidate himself – until his big moment on “Meet the Press.”

I’ve had my disagreements with Ron Paul – and they are big ones.

He and his supporters seem to think America can, in 2008, decide we just don’t want to be involved with determined foreign enemies who have sought to destroy the U.S. since it became a nation. He and his supporters seem to think that America itself is to blame for creating its enemies because of its own interventionist meddling.

While I agree America has involved itself in world problems far more than it should, I will never accept that our enemies will leave us alone if we leave them alone.

Having studied America’s No. 1 foreign enemy, Islamic radicalism, for the better part of the last 28 years, I can only say Ron Paul and his supporters are just dead wrong about this. Furthermore, we’ll all be dead wrong if we follow his prescription.

Believe me, I wish it were as easy as Ron Paul suggests. But the sad truth is that if we run from this enemy now, our days as a country living in relative peace and prosperity are over. Dr. Paul’s prescription for peace is actually the kind of prescription you’d expect from Dr. Kevorkian.

Nevertheless, despite those serious differences, I thought there was much to like and admire about Ron Paul.

What I had always appreciated about him was his outspoken support for the Constitution, the fact that he didn’t get caught up in the trappings of Washington power, that he wasn’t a hypocrite.

I believed all that. And I have to thank Tim Russert for blowing his cover.

I just simply didn’t know that Ron Paul plays the Washington racket just like the rest of the gang. The only difference is he has figured out a system of plausible deniability for himself – a way he can still maintain his image of incorruptibility and integrity, while bringing home the pork to his Texas district with the kind of efficiency that would make Robert Byrd blush.

Ron Paul developed his reputation as a constitutional tax fighter and proponent of limited government through decades of voting “no.”

But that hasn’t stopped him from earmarking federal tax dollars for his district’s own pet pork projects – to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars!

Paul defended his actions on “Meet the Press” in spin that would make Bill Clinton proud.

“I’ve never voted for an earmark in my life,” he explained. “I’m against the tax system, but I take all my tax credits. I want to get their money back for the people.”

This is actually as ingenious as it is immoral.

Ron Paul knows his vote against his own earmarks for pork is meaningless to the actual outcome. He’s going to get his pork because every member of Congress gets his pork. But Ron Paul gets the psychic satisfaction of voting against it – after, of course, he proposed it.

While I’m sure this makes him feel better about himself, is he really any less guilty of picking taxpayer pockets than the rest of them?

And I love the second part of his explanation in which he likens his support of pork to a “tax credit.” Yet, isn’t this logic that any one of the other bandits in the House and Senate could use to justify their own game of unconstitutional plunder?

Here’s another problem I have with his answer: Is pork good or bad? I don’t understand his duplicitous answer. Is he defending pork as a good way of bringing money back to taxpayers? Or is he condemning it as the waste we all know it to be?

Ron Paul wants to have it both ways, doesn’t he?

While portraying himself as cleaner than the wind-driven snow, a man standing up against the machine, a courageous freedom fighter, it turns out Ron Paul is just another politician using the system for his own empowerment, his own ego and defending this abuse of the Constitution with his own relativistic moral code.

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27 responses to “Ron Paul: Earmarks Prove He’s Just Another Lying Politician

  1. Exactly who do you think you are posting to here? It was clear from the very first word of this post that you were biased and just attacking him. If your real arguments had merit, then you wouldn’t have to start the article with insults to people.

    Which means you are posting towards people who already have their mind up. Either to piss Ron Paul supporters off with things that were talked about 6 months ago, or to feed people who don’t like Ron Paul with a sugar coated bowl of hate.

    Even more obvious, you could care less about the facts, as the point you try to make was answered a long time ago. It’s simple, he is against the government taking the money from the people to being with, and only passes the requests the people he represents made to him into the bills, and then votes against the spending again. I’m honestly not sure what is hard to understand there. But again, judging by how you started this out, it doesn’t look to me that you actually care.

    But oh well, thanks for the half assed hit piece. Makes Ron Paul look better.

  2. invar

    Exactly who do you think you are posting to here?

    Whomever reads it.

    That’s who.

    It was clear from the very first word of this post that you were biased and just attacking him.

    You got all of that from the word “While”????

    Look buster, I do not hide the fact I am against Ron Paul’s candidacy, and even moreso against a chunk of his crazy crackpot supporters.

    I’m not just attacking him. I have serious disagreement with his platforms, and he is not completely what he or his supporters present him as.

    If your real arguments had merit, then you wouldn’t have to start the article with insults to people.

    That’s just plain crap. Those are my observations, followed by my admonition Paul is no messiah, but a standard politician, period. Joseph Farah points out the spinjob he did on Russert’s show about earmarks, and the disengenouous answers he gave that showcases he is not what he presents himself as.

    Which means you are posting towards people who already have their mind up. Either to piss Ron Paul supporters off with things that were talked about 6 months ago, or to feed people who don’t like Ron Paul with a sugar coated bowl of hate.

    Whatever floats your boat.

    These are my observations and opinions, I frankly do not care if you do not like them. I’m not writing to please the populace and make pals with those pushing ideas and agendas I disagree with.

    Even more obvious, you could care less about the facts

    What “Facts”??? The one’s Russert showcased were bogus? The ones that plainly show your messiah-candidate is exactly as I have been saying all along; a standard Washington Insider politician? Or are “Facts” simply the hosannas and kudos sung about your messiah? He did a spin job on Russert’s show. That’s FACT bud. Live with it.

    It’s simple, he is against the government taking the money from the people to being with, and only passes the requests the people he represents made to him into the bills, and then votes against the spending again.

    Like Farah pointed out – that kind of spin and twist of both logic and truth is something that would make Bill Clinton blush with envy.

    It’s the same playbook the Liberal Democrats use when they call Tax increases “Investments”.

    Ron Paul plays the same games his colleagues do, not as blatantly – but then he dons the white robes and mantle of Constitutional Pureness and takes the money from other taxpayers he knows he is going to get – and parcels it out to his district to get re-elected – for 18 straight years.

    it doesn’t look to me that you actually care.

    Oh no, I care. Enough to do my part in making sure Ron Paul is defeated in the primary. He is not fit for CINC, and would empower and enable all enemies of America to achieve their goals in our destruction and removal from the world stage.

    But oh well, thanks for the half assed hit piece. Makes Ron Paul look better.

    Only political wonks buy into that kind of idiot logic.

    Face it, your snow-white messiah is not so pure – he is just another politician, putting his hand in the same cookie jar he excoriates everyone else for digging into. But then he spins and justifies himself for doing the same thing he is slamming the others for doing.

    He puts the pork as a rider in a bill, then votes against it knowing it will pass, and takes the money and dishes it out while claiming he is against pork spending. When caught he claims he defines the pork as a “tax credit”…AMAZING!!!

    Beats out Clinton’s “Depends on what the definition of “is”, is.

    Ron Paul, just your typical politican.

  3. LPR

    The man doesn’t understand that we need a strong central government to take care of this country.

    Beyond that likening earmarks to pork shows a server lack of comprehension regarding how things work.

    Good job in that it makes Ron Paul look bad to joe six pack just don’t mention it in educated company or you will appear to be a fool.

  4. invar

    The man doesn’t understand that we need a strong central government to take care of this country.

    I totally disagree with that. Communist and Socialist regimes necessitate a strong central government.

    A Republic does not endure a strong central government, because government’s nature is to grow and control EVERYTHING.

    The only strong aspect of central government I support is in defense. Central government FAILS at everything else it does – the Katrina clean-up is just a small case-in-point. They failed where churches and individuals succeeded. But then the machinations of big government QUASHED and crushed the volunteer relief efforts under ineffective bureaucratic control.

    Beyond that likening earmarks to pork shows a server lack of comprehension regarding how things work.

    What do you think earmarks are???

    Set-asides of monies for projects and programs – aka: PORK.

    Good job in that it makes Ron Paul look bad to joe six pack

    Joe sixpack wants his beer and cable, and is more concerned with Britney Spears’ latest gaffe than with the direction the country is going…until his wallet begins to hurt – then he looks to mama Government to fix it for him.

    What Joe Sixpack likes to hear is “abolishing the IRS” and “Closing all bases and bringing troops home” – until the ramifications of those ideas hurt Joe Sixpack’s sense of Social programs and we get hit with soemthing worse than 9-11.

    Then Joe Sixpack will be all mad at the government for not doing enough for social programs or protecting us from bad guys.

  5. John Reading

    So the fact the Ron Paul always votes against the earmarks should just be ignored, right?

    I get it! I can get lots of attention if I just write a lot of creepy insults and sadistic lies about Ron Paul! Just lie about him and insult him and people will notice me? And I don’t even need to know anything about history or economics or Ron Paul’s actual record. Wow! Too cool for words, Dude!

    I can handle it. Hey everybody, lookit me lookit me lookit me ….

  6. Danny Hudson

    first off, you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. as someone who is adamantly against higher taxes going to the federal government, he has to get that money back to his district.

    he has said on many occasions that the earmarks are necessary because the money is being sent off to washington in ways he does not approve of.

    as an advocate to change the system, he has voted against every earmark that has passed. however, when you work in a flawed system, you have to do what you can to get your money back from the federal government until you can fix it.

    once dr. paul is in control the earmark system will change because the congressmen will no longer have to use earmarks to keep their own money.

  7. Freedom2Learn

    I also think its ridiculous that the comments await moderation. I am sure you can check a box to post them right away. Why don’t you do that?

  8. invar

    first off, you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. as someone who is adamantly against higher taxes going to the federal government, he has to get that money back to his district.

    he has said on many occasions that the earmarks are necessary because the money is being sent off to washington in ways he does not approve of.

    Thanks for making my entire point.

    It’s not okay if other politicians earmark funds for pork projects back home, but it is okay for Ron Paul to do so – like a retroactive Robin Hood. Looks like he took his cue from how the Liberal Democrats do things in terms of STICKING the earmark in an appropriations bill, voting AGAINST IT so he can say “I never voted FOR earmarks” when he knew damn well it was going to pass and he was going to get money into his district with his own pork. Brilliant!

    Looks like your principled Messiah simply knows how to play the game the rest of Washington plays, and then SPIN it when caught red-handed. A typical Washington politician, with his hand in the same cookie jar, but insisiting the cookies he is taking is for a good reason.

    once dr. paul is in control the earmark system will change because the congressmen will no longer have to use earmarks to keep their own money.

    For people that supposedly stand for the Constitution – THANK YOU for demonstrating what abject IGNORAMUSES you actually are about what the Constitution actually says and means.

    Unless your messiah is going to act like the king and dictator you mob zombies are chanting for, CONGRESS controls the purse strings toots. CONGRESS authorizes and introduces legislation, and approves the budget.

    All your guy will be able to do is VETO the bills, and pray they do not have enough votes to override him.

  9. invar

    I also think its ridiculous that the comments await moderation. I am sure you can check a box to post them right away. Why don’t you do that?

    Because the direct threats of violence on myself and family; death threats and other vile crap from your fellow crazed Ron Paul supporters is vetted and forwarded to the proper Authorities for action.

    You can thank your fellow Revolutionistas for the necessity to moderate all comments.

    Plus you can thank them for pushing me into militant opposition of your candidate. Hillary’s people are far more civil and reasonable than you people are.

    And that’s saying something.

  10. invar

    I can get lots of attention if I just write a lot of creepy insults and sadistic lies about Ron Paul!

    I think Tim Russert adequately exposed the creepy sadistic liar that Ron Paul actually is in the interview. Joseph Farah just pointed out the inconsistency and spin genius Paul is engaging in.

    Between that, the support Ron Paul gets from MoveOn.org, Brothel owners in Vegas and Neo-Nazi Stormfront racists – I have to definitely state that this is the craziest bunch of freaks for a campign I;ve ever seen, beating the Perotistas by miles and miles in the absolutely absurd department.

  11. Peter

    If there are any Ron Paul supporters (or for that matter anyone with an I.Q. equal to or above that of an average Spider Monkey) don’t waste your time posting or reading on this site. It’s simply a ploy to take advantage of the current Ron Paul popularity on the internet.

    One parting question: your article is the first I’ve ever read to use the term ” Messiah” when referring to Ron Paul. I’m sure Dr. Paul would be flattered at your praise and obvious frustration.

    Does your doctor know that you’ve been off of your prozac lately? Hmmmm, sounds like someone needs a hug.

  12. It’s funny how when you are against a candidate you will find ANYTHING that may discredit him. It’s all a smoke screen. If you look at the bus loads of problems with the other candidates, you will see that Ron Paul really is the best candidate in contrast (at least in this department). You would like to label him as a crackpot and all his supporters with him, but the fact remains that he is the only candidate willing to lay out his entire rational way of thinking for the voters to decide on. All the other candidates are secretive and unwilling to be an open book. In any case, keep pushing the gem you found in the haystack of history… it’s the best distraction from the candidate you support which I’m sure has many “gems” the media will dig out in time.

  13. daddym

    You know, more to the point…who do you support and what is thier stance on this “Earmark” issue?
    Are they open about it when asked what projects they have tagged and why?
    Please let me know how Ron Paul fairs with your candidate on this issue.

    Thanks.

  14. invar

    It’s funny how when you are against a candidate you will find ANYTHING that may discredit him.

    It’s called POLITICS bub. The way you people are wailing and moaning makes me laugh – because if by some miracle your messiah makes it to the General Election – the Democrats are going to have your boy for lunch – and my comments are going to be TAME in comparison to what THEY are going to dig up and smear him with.

    You would like to label him as a crackpot and all his supporters with him

    When your messiah blames America for 9-11 and Bhutto’s death, and how you Mob Zombies toss around threats and wail like moonbats, does not require me to ‘label’ you as crackpots at all, it’s self evident to the rest of us.

    but the fact remains that he is the only candidate willing to lay out his entire rational way of thinking for the voters to decide on.

    Rational??? I hear Dr. Demento’s “They’re coming to take me away” song every single time I see your candidate on the screen.

    Then he opens his mouth and takes away all doubt that he needs to be in a straight jacket.

    who do you support and what is thier stance on this “Earmark” issue?

    I don’t support any one candidate at this point. My mind is not yet made up about the couple I’m reluctantly looking at.

    The difference I am sure about earmarks and the other GOP candidates, is that unlike Ron Paul, they do not insert earmarks into appropriation bills for their district, vote against them to keep up appearances of a fiscal fighter, and then take those funds once they pass and call them “tax credits”.

    From what I’ve seen and read, they are straight up about earmarking funds for their district.

    They are not saying one thing, doing another for appearances sake, and then when caught about their duplicity – call their actions “tax credits”.

    Nice spin job by Dr. Paul, who as I have been saying – is nothing more than an 18 year career politician who plays the same game the rest of them do.

    Yet he presents himself as a Constitutional Snow White.

    Runny Bovine Excrement, he is nothing of the sort.

  15. Maxfield Cardon

    One last thing… To quote you…

    from abolishing the IRS to creating peace on earth by playing freinds with all our enemies. ***
    ^^^^^
    Is that not what Jesus himself taught? To love your enemies and to turn the other cheek whenever possible? (Not too mention his constant slams of Caesar… whom of course is a representation of state power.)

    I believe personally that Jesus, the man, was one of the most ethical individual who ever walked the face of this earth – it’s too bad that 2000 years later we have learned absolutely nothing from this amazing fellow.

  16. invar

    Is that not what Jesus himself taught?

    Show me in scripture where Jesus taught that we should abolish the IRS and placate and appease those either pushing sin or war upon us as a nation.

    To love your enemies and to turn the other cheek whenever possible?

    Jesus was speaking to YOU – the INDIVIDUAL – NOT an entire nation.

    Should the Colonists have turned the other cheek when the British landed and marched on Lexington and Concord?

    Listening to you people, the answer would be yes.
    There is nothing you will fight for, because peace at all costs is more important to you than standing up for what is right and defeating evil.

    You misapply the scriptures to apply to things not intended. God did not tell Ancient Israel to “love the Amelekites” and the Hittittes, Israel’s mortal enemies – He told Israel to war on them for their acts against the nation of Israel.

    And before you go tossing out something absurd like “That was the angry God of the Old Testament” – understand it was Jesus Himself who gave those orders, and you can discover that by reading and comprehending John 1: 1-3.

    When Jesus stated “The Father and I are One” – he was clear. He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. He does not change, even though we do.

    There is a time for peace, and a time for war.

    Jesus did not abolish that scripture, as some of you insist.

  17. 2CAVTrooper

    Invar,

    Once again steel on target.

    Don’t you just love the hoops that the personnel from the Ministry of Silly Excuses jump through just to defend the two faced liar from TX14?

    To all you paultards…..

    ron paul has lied to you.

    He has failed his oath of office under Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution by voting against every military budget since he’s been in office.
    He has voted against building new housing for our Soldiers and their families.
    He has voted against military pay raises.
    He has voted against the funding needed to equip our soldiers with the latest body armor.
    He has openly stated that our Soldiers in Desert Storm and Somalia were war criminals
    He has openly stated that the clinton defense cuts didn’t go deep enough.
    He has openly stated that we should have no offensive capability……Goodbye carrier battle groups. Goodbye M1 tanks. Goodbye Apache helicopters. Goodbye Bradley Fighting Vehicles. Goodbye B1, B2, B52 bomber fleet. Goodbye United States Marine Corps. Etc, Etc, Etc.

    ron paul is all for congressional term limits (as long as they do not apply to him)

    ron paul is helping to build the NAFTA Superhighway by requesting an additional $30 million in funding for the Interstate 69/Trans Texas Corridor.

    ron paul is beholden to george soros and moveon.org.

    ron paul has been endorsed by cindy sheehan.

    ron paul has been endorsed by neo-nazi groups stormfront and national alliance.

    ron paul is a RINO.

  18. invar

    Thank You 2Cav, for both your service and distinctly pointing out that contrary to Paul’s claims, not everyone in the military is totally for his push for Isolationism.

  19. 2CAVTrooper

    Invar,

    I do not know a single member of the armed services who supports the cut and run coward.

    The vast majority of the military would rather finish the mission the right way than drop everything, turn their backs, tuck tail and run as ron paul or the Democrats would have them do.

    And if you were to look on his donation page, you will see that you can fill in any employer and occupation that you so choose. It’s not like the campaign is going to do the right thing and cross reference their donors to make sure that people are telling the truth or anything.

    IF he had this vast support from the military, then you would also think that well known retired military leaders would endorse him too?

  20. invar

    2Cav –

    Had a Guardsman back from Tour 2 stay the weekend with us, and he confirms the same exact sentiments you do.

    I don’t know of any active mil that wants to see us pull up stakes and leave.

    He has seen what we are up against in terms of ideology, and is worried that if we do not put this rabid dog down now, he is going to have to go back later, with little chance of making it home.

    Plus I’m more than a bit suspicious of the primary support Paul is getting from the Anti-war Left.

    Given Ron Paul’s pledge to close all US bases and bring troops home around the world – I don’t see any career brass voting for their own retirement under a Paul Administration either.

  21. veteransabroad

    If this is all you can think of to hurt Ron Paul, he is in good shape.

    With the earmarks, RP just said “This earmark system is outrageous, but if you are going to vote such a huge bill that I refuse to vote for, then you will also vote for my district to get its share of your winnings”.

    Now try this logic: “You will vote for Ron Paul in the primaries or he will run 3rd party and win more votes than the Republican nominee in the general election…possibly giving the election to Hillary unless you ignore the Republican nominee in the general election”.

  22. invar

    With the earmarks, RP just said “This earmark system is outrageous, but if you are going to vote such a huge bill that I refuse to vote for, then you will also vote for my district to get its share of your winnings”.

    Bwahahahaaaaaaaa!!!!

    That’s RICH!

    You guys can teach Bill Clinton a thing or two about how to SPIN and BS a bogus position after getting caught into a “righteous” act.

    Your spin is no different than the infamous John Kerry “I voted for the (war) right before I voted against it”.

    You people are a hoot.

    “You will vote for Ron Paul in the primaries or he will run 3rd party and win more votes than the Republican nominee in the general election…possibly giving the election to Hillary unless you ignore the Republican nominee in the general election”.

    And you Mob Zombies wonder why I compare your messiah to Ross Perot.

    We already figured Ron Paul was going to run 3rd party – even though he said he would not.

  23. Christian

    Why not put them in, he’s a representative of a district that makes a request. You lack to say that he didn’t vote for the earmarks, but he did the right thing for his people by requesting them to rest of congress. The money is there and let congress decide. He voted no and said that. Get your story start and stop the Ron Paul attacks against this good doctor. You wish you were half the person he was editor. This website is a joke and so biased. It must be owned by Foxnews!

  24. invar

    Excuse you, but your good Doctor is not quite the Principled Messiah you people ascribe him.

    If earmarks for pork are as bad as Ron Paul says they are, why partake of that ‘darkness’? One has to earmark projects during committee and PUT THEM INTO THE BILL before they reach the House floor for a vote. It’s pretty sickening that your messiah says he’s against using the government to rob one citizen to give to another – yet he engages in the very practice he says is wrong – and then when caught partaking in it – spins his involvement by calling it a tax refund for his district.

    He obviously has no problem using the money from citizens of New Jersey and elsewhere to pay for his district’s “tax refund”.

    It’s like saying that shoplifting is wrong and immoral but because the store has unfairly overcharged for years, he goes and loads up a shopping bag with selected items from the store he knows a thief is going to squirrel out of the store, and then later catches up with the shoplifter to take what he put in the bag to give to those he decided deserve to booty because they have all shopped there before.

  25. 2CAVTrooper

    “Christian
    January 2, 2008 at 6:51 pm
    Why not put them in, he’s a representative of a district that makes a request. You lack to say that he didn’t vote for the earmarks, but he did the right thing for his people by requesting them to rest of congress. The money is there and let congress decide. He voted no and said that. Get your story start and stop the Ron Paul attacks against this good doctor. You wish you were half the person he was editor. This website is a joke and so biased. It must be owned by Foxnews!”

    Those projects that he put the earmarks in the budget for should have been funded at the STATE, LOCAL or PRIVATE level.

    For example, what business is it of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to fund the renovation of a movie theater?

    The only ones who need to get their stories “straight” are brainwashed sheeple such as yourself who gobble up the whitewashed BS that paul spoon feeds you.

  26. Schmoey

    It’s quite hypocritical when Ron Paul insists on spending $400 MILLION dollars in earmarks, including $8 million in marketing of wild American shrimp or $2.3 million in Shrimp funding research when uh…these bills may or may not be approved at the state level anyways (if hypothetically the state had more money because it’s no longer taxed by the Federal Government).
    He’s also enacted legislation favoring the shrimping industry in Texas. Where does he think this money is going to come from? Federal taxes and the printing press, that’s where. “End the Fed”. Please what would RP do without his special interest, he’s Nancy Pelosi in sheeps’ clothing. Amongst many other inconsistancies, such as how he preaches individualism yet hangs out with collectivists (ie. Stormfront, Mises who has a record of chauvanism).
    RP preaches a free market but doesn’t want the government to compete with civilians.
    RP wants a free market, “free” society yet thinks the 2nd amendment is the only way to protect it.
    He thinks it’s okay for North Korea’s dictator to have nukes after they starved their people but it’s not okay for Israel to have weapons.
    He also believes the problems of the world is all America’s fault.
    He wants North Koreans to revolt against their leader, which would more than likely result in a bloodbath like Tienammen Square, but I’ll bet anyone that he doesn’t have enough balls to attend a Tea Party.
    He spends like a liberal, he talks like a liberal…except that he’s crazy and he calls himself a “conservative”. And the liberals hate him because he doesn’t endorce Civil Liberties, he’d endorse shrimp marketing companies instead. At least with a liberal you would get your civil liberties after they took all your money. Ron Paul would just take your money.
    Worse off, his minions believe EVERYTHING he tells them. They and Obamazombies are the 8th wonder of the world.

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