A current twist on the sentiments of Neimoller:
First they came for the Branch Davidians at Waco
and I did not speak out
because I was not an alleged wacko Christian cultist with guns.
Then they came for the FLDS church in San Angelo
and I did not speak out
because I was not an alleged child-abusing polygamist.
Eventually they came for me, and my church
and there was no one left
with any courage or outrage
to speak out for me.
I sit in stunned amazement of so many Americans cheerleading the government of Texas’ actions in the military raid at gunpoint, detention and kidnapping of the women and children at the FLDS compound in San Angelo earlier this month.
Let me state outrightly that I am not Mormon, I do not agree with their religious doctrines and both polygamy and child abuse is wrong and evil in my opinion.
But what was trampled underfoot YET AGAIN in Texas, was not the trampling of the rights of the FLDS members, it is the trampling of due process and the Constitutional rights of ALL AMERICANS.
I’m stunned no one sees or understands the absolute dangerous cliff we are going over with the tyrannical actions made against the FLDS in Texas.
Your right to religious liberty in the First Amendment was trampled.
Your right to be secure in your persons papers and effects, was trampled.
The Constitutional requirement that warrants to search and seize must be obtained by affirmation and oath of more than one witness of probable cause of a crime commited, has now been abolished.
A military raid on YOUR HOUSE or church can now be conducted after nothing more than an anonymous phone call by someone making false allegations.
Your children can and will be forcefully taken away from you at gunpoint if the state says you have abused them, even if no evidence of abuse was presented to a Judge to obtain a warrant.
Your children will become wards of the state and shipped to group home gulags with a history of abuse and murder. Parents are then prohibited from seeing their children and despite petition from attorneys, are denied by Judicial tyranny.
You can have your prayers prohibited unless they are monitored by a court-appointed overseer.
Your individual case to plead is abolished and you are treated in bulk with the whole of those accused.
And all of this, done before any defendants have their day in court.
I cannot relay to you how much my own blood boils at the abject tyranny on display in this case. This is Waco part II, without the bloodshed – but even more damaging to our liberties as Americans than at Mount Carmel.
I had someone argue with me vehemently that the FLDS deserved to have these things happen to them, and that regardless of the violations of due process and the Constitution that the State’s action’s, the seriousness of the charges outweigh their Rights, and by extention – ours.
During the course of the argument they wrote that “Whatever was needed to be done, even if it violated due process as you say and the Constitution, those children’s lives and stopping the abuse is more important than your stupid belief in the Constitution – I’d hate to live in a country of people that think like you do”.
So now a mere allegation or “common knowlege” is more important than our “stupid belief in the Constitution”
I now know and understand how it was possible that an enlightened people in Germany empowered a madman.
If people think for ONE SECOND that ANY of what was done to the FLDS deserves applause, kudos and thanks to the gestapo agents of the state, then will all due respect, they are no different than these enablers of tyrannical bastards:
What is frightening beyond comprehension, is that this entire raid was instigated by a BOGUS AND FALSE phone call, from Rozita Swinton in Colorado Springs CO!! She PRETENDED to be a 13 year old girl being held against her will in the compound.
Suddenly, the stormtrooper goons with submachine guns show up with APCs to bust in and kidnap the women and children without so much as showing a warrant, producing a warrant or providing any hard evidence of a crime to have procurred the warrant.
When asked if they could see the warrant, the stormtroopers told the women they do not get to see any warrant. That exchange was caught on video.
Then the Police and officials of the State lied to the women they took captive:
Worse yet, is after the kidnapping of these women and children, the women are being held in detention without being charged with any crime, and their children have been stripped from them and shipped to foster home that HAVE A HISTORY OF ABUSE, RAPE and even MURDER.
William Grigg notes this in his blog:
Judge Walther has ruled — and wasn’t the suspense terrific? — that the 416 abducted FLDS children will remain in “temporary” state custody.
This, despite the fact (as explained below), that the abuse report that provided the pretext for the raid was contrived. This, despite the admission, under oath, of Bruce Perry of the ChildTrauma Academy — an “expert” witness on behalf of the state — that the foster care system “would be destructive to these kids.”
As what follows will illustrate, Perry isn’t exaggerating one whit.
So … the warrant was based on a lie, the raid was therefore illegal, the children face the prospect of certain harm within the state foster care system — and Judge Walther is OK with this.
The raid was conducted on a false allegation, with no evidence of abuse and now are being put into a system where rape, abuse and worse have plagued the agency.
The children suffer behind an iron curtain of corrupt secrecy. That curtain was lifted a few years ago, long enough to get a brief but terrifying glimpse of what was being done by people who had placed themselves beyond accountability.
Scores of children were killed, poisoned, beaten, and otherwise abused each year. Child rape was terrifyingly common: The largest group of victims were between 12 and 15 years of age, but thirteen percent of the victims were three years old or younger.
An official investigation of this secretive system was undertaken, but soon foundered over obstructions thrown up by those who had the most to lose if the full truth were revealed. But before the portcullis was slammed shut, the investigator learned that a child being raised in that system was four times more likely to die of criminal violence than a child in the general population.
The obvious course of action would be to mount an armed raid to liberate those children, but whatever necessary means, from the abusive system in which they’re being held.
Unfortunately, the entity that would carry out such an operation also presides over the systematic abuse. The findings described above are from an abortive investigation of the Texas Foster Care System conducted by Carole Keeton Strayhorn on behalf of the state Comptroller’s office.
Grigg goes on and his sentiments are noteworthy to consider. This is an affront to liberty and an attack on freedom itself.
They’ve done what they intended: They’ve stolen the children, and they’re not going to give them back unless they’re literally forced to do so.
“I think some people have really focused on that [Sarah] but the reality is that her phone call is the reason we went out there, but it was not the reason for the removals,” claimed DFPS shill Greg Cunningham. “The removals happened based on what we saw out there.”
What, pray tell, did they see “out there”? We won’t find out until a court-appointed “Special Master” has had a chance to review — or, if necessary, contrive — the “evidence.”
Here’s what the public has seen:
We witnessed a military assault, with armor provided by the Department of Homeland Security, against a peaceful, unresisting religious community.
We have seen happy, healthy, well-adjusted children who have been separated at gunpoint from loving mothers.
The children suffer behind an iron curtain of corrupt secrecy. That curtain was lifted a few years ago, long enough to get a brief but terrifying glimpse of what was being done by people who had placed themselves beyond accountability.
Scores of children were killed, poisoned, beaten, and otherwise abused each year. Child rape was terrifyingly common: The largest group of victims were between 12 and 15 years of age, but thirteen percent of the victims were three years old or younger.
An official investigation of this secretive system was undertaken, but soon foundered over obstructions thrown up by those who had the most to lose if the full truth were revealed. But before the portcullis was slammed shut, the investigator learned that a child being raised in that system was four times more likely to die of criminal violence than a child in the general population.
The obvious course of action would be to mount an armed raid to liberate those children, but whatever necessary means, from the abusive system in which they’re being held.
Unfortunately, the entity that would carry out such an operation also presides over the systematic abuse. The findings described above are from an abortive investigation of the Texas Foster Care System conducted by Carole Keeton Strayhorn on behalf of the state Comptroller’s office.
“In April 2004 I said I would give our forgotten children in foster care something they need — a voice,” recalls Strayhorn. “I have been and will continue to be their voice. This Governor’s Health and Human Services Commission continues to stonewall my investigation and this governor continues to hide the truth.
We have seen and heard women who have experienced the single worst thing that can happen to a parent — the loss of a child or children — present themselves with dignity and reserve in the face of arrogant aggression by a corrupt state bureaucracy (as if any other kind existed).
What we have not seen is any evidence that children were being abused in the FLDS community.
But there is ample evidence of systematic abuse of the most heinous kind in the foster care system into which the child-snatchers seek to place the FLDS children.
Perry, or at least the government over which he presides, did eventually act to “save” children — by conducting a potentially lethal military raid against a community where they weren’t being abused, for the purpose of delivering them into a government-run system in which children are routinely killed, molested, and poisoned.As an ABC News analysis points out, the DFPS legal strategy is to treat the people living in the YFZ enclave as a single household. In this fashion, under what the Texas government is pleased to call the “law,” finding a single case of abuse within the community would be enough to justify keeping all of the children in permanent state custody.
Which means, of course, that they would become the property of a single collectivist “household.” We could envision it as sort of a polygamous union between various foster homes and the state government, in its role as Parens Patriae. And in that collectivist household, abuse is widespread, frequently lethal, and protected by “law.”
As legal proceedings in the FLDS custody battle began today (in — as the bitter ironies continue to accumulate — the Tom Green Courthouse), the presiding judge, Barbara L. Walther, was praised by all and sundry as the very soul of equity.
Judge Walther will give the FLDS “a fair shake,” insisted attorney William Moore of San Angelo, where the case is being heard. Fellow attorney Guy Choate praised Walther for her command of details. And Robert Post, whom Walther defeated in the 1992 election in which she won her seat, insisted that the judge won’t be a “rubber stamp” for the state bureaucracy, but rather will “make them prove it up.”
Judge Walther may be the embodiment of competence; she may be the essence of good intentions made flesh. But either through professional blindness or something more sinister she failed her first, and perhaps most important, test today:
She did not issue an order to the DFPS commanding them to produce “Sarah,” with an inflexible and immediate deadline to do so.
Walther is the judge who issued an extravagantly overbroad warrant on the basis of “Sarah’s” alleged report. Today she admitted into evidence documents seized in that raid without confirming that there was a legal basis for the warrant.
By relieving the DFPS of the responsibility to produce the alleged witness that was the basis of that report, Walther has graduated from commonplace offenses against the Constitution to participation in a criminal conspiracy — assuming, as I think by now we should, that “Sarah” doesn’t exist.
The criminal conspiracy in this case involves the attempted — or, better put, not entirely consummated — theft of children by a state bureaucracy with a financial interest in enlarging the ranks of its foster care system, however miserable or dangerous that system is to its enrollees.
So, who will be next?
The Mormons themselves?
The 7th Day Adventists?
YOUR CHURCH?
If all it takes is an uncorroborated anonymous phone call by someone claiming a crime to bring the entire weight of an armed police state through your doors, the confiscation of your children and property, then America and liberty as we knew her are already gone, and all that is left of us is to wait in fear – waiting for that knock at the door in the middle of the night, before the Gestapo bust down your door and shove a gun in your face while your family is taken away and shipped to who knows where.
In a touch of irony when fiction mimics life, as Padme Amidala noted in the last Star Wars movie ‘Revenge of the Sith” –
“So this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause.”
Witness liberty dying before your eyes Americans.
To thunderous applause.
UPDATES:
JUSTICE DENIED.
Legal aid group challenges state’s forced relocation of FLDS children to foster homes
The Third Court of Appeals has decided to hear arguments over whether the state of Texas can place children from the Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints currently in its custody into foster care without giving each of their families the opportunity to defend themselves in court, according to a press release.
“These families have the right to have their voices heard in the legal process,” said TRLA attorney Robert Doggett. “The idea that these children can be taken away without giving their families the opportunity to address allegations and fight to stay together is absurd.”
STATE MOVES CHILDREN, BEFORE APPEALS COURT CAN HEAR FLDS MOTHERS” PETITION
Late this morning (4-24), two buses left the San Angelo Coliseum about 20 minutes apart.
The first bus seemed to have only a few people aboard, but the second was fully loaded and headed south.
Both buses had heavy law enforcement escort.
As the second bus was leaving the San Angelo Fairgrounds, a window was cracked open, and a sign thrust out that read “SOS mothers separated help.”
Confidence in FLDS arrest warrant now shaky, authorities say
Revelations that the March 29 phone call that sparked a raid on a Schleicher County polygamist compound may be a hoax have led prosecutors to doubt the reason for the original search-and-arrest warrant that granted authorities access to the YFZ Ranch.
Arrests still could be made in the case, said First Assistant 51st District Attorney Allison Palmer. The raid, based on the warrant, led to the removal of 437 children from the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints ranch, the largest child custody action in Texas history.
“If it were true that the female who identified herself as Sarah is not really Sarah, I do not feel that would be enough to (invalidate) the search warrant,” Palmer said.
Palmer used the phone calls as the probable cause necessary to secure the search-and-arrest warrant granted by District Judge Barbara Walther.
“Some events have shaken our belief and confidence in that probable cause,” Palmer said.